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Punched a hole through my Cheviot cone is there any hope?


:eek: It looks like they just swabbed some white glue on and called it a day. I don't see any "reinforcement" on the back, just thick blobs of glue.. :dunno:. I've never dealt with them other than buying a few things, but I just can't help to think someone was thinking of a "future recone job" when the "repair" falls apart. :idea:
 
Drugolf said:
It probably looks like they just glued it because the paper is on the back. I am sure Midwest knows what they are doing.
you mostly took a ding on re-sale value.
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According to the pictures, I wouldn't be so sure Midwest "knows what they are doing".. Unless it is to try and get "future recone business". :dunno:
 
Chrisxo55441 said:
i resized and uploaded some of the pics instead of copy paste maybe you can see them now
the pic of the back shows the backside repair looks like just sealant to me

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Yep, I saw the pics. That looks like the thick white glue. It's supposed to dry "clear", but not when it is put on so thick for it to stay white. At least they kept it thin on the front. Damn, it makes me glad I do all my own work! Is that glue where the surround attaches to the cone too? The yellowish stuff appears to look like Elmer's rubber cement.
 
Skywatcher said:
Doesn't mean they wouldn't try put in something that "fits" without regards to how it "sounds". But either way, that patch job just looks so "amateurish" to me.
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yes i was expecting better like i said earlier i may try something my self, that brace or whatever it is on the back side of the cone is over part of the hole so i dont think they could have gotten material under that but i may try putting some on the open area
 
It hurts me to see it, Chrisxo. It was a bad tear, but could have been done so much better. And that brown glue glommed onto the edges, is that their "handiwork" too? So much for "professional".

And to such classic speakers too... If they were mine, I'd redo it. The white glue can be removed with heat or steam, and they'll be back where they started, for a new beginning.
Chrisxo55441 said:
I may try something my self
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If you do, and want any help, any time.
 
Chrisxo55441 said:
yes i was expecting better like i said earlier i may try something my self, that brace or whatever it is on the back side of the cone is over part of the hole so i dont think they could have gotten material under that but i may try putting some on the open area
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You do want to use a water-based glue that is *flexible*, but not Elmer's. The "flexible" white speaker glue is nice for this. Cut a piece of coffee filter paper to the size and shape you need. Then put just enough glue to "wet" the coffee filter and make it limp. Then carefully put it in place. Then use a small artist paint brush to work out any air bubbles, and add some more glue around the edges. Keep the glue as thin as you can though. If the paper tries to "lift" as it dries, just take the brush and carefully work it back down. Then wait 48 hours minimum for the glue to fully cure before running the speaker.
 
Skywatcher said:
You do want to use a water-based glue that is *flexible*, but not Elmer's. The "flexible" white speaker glue is nice for this. Cut a piece of coffee filter paper to the size and shape you need. Then put just enough glue to "wet" the coffee filter and make it limp. Then carefully put it in place. Then use a small artist paint brush to work out any air bubbles, and add some more glue around the edges. Keep the glue as thin as you can though. If the paper tries to "lift" as it dries, just take the brush and carefully work it back down. Then wait 48 hours minimum for the glue to fully cure before running the speaker.
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All true — for a patch on back. But not a word about the severe and ugly damage in front.

A good repair is not just functional, and these speakers are a thing of beauty. If my wife's face were ripped open by a horrible accident, I could patch her with paper and glue, or a staple gun for that matter. She would want, and I too, the closest resemblance to her original beauty as possible.
 
bimasta said:
All true — for a patch on back. But not a word about the severe and ugly damage in front.

A good repair is not just functional, and these speakers are a thing of beauty. If my wife's face were ripped open by a horrible accident, I could patch her with paper and glue, or a staple gun for that matter. She would want, and I too, the closest resemblance to her original beauty as possible.
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Absolutely true. The hard part with this is going to be the aged paper. Any kind of glue or coating will stick out like a sore thumb.
 
bimasta said:
All true — for a patch on back. But not a word about the severe and ugly damage in front.

A good repair is not just functional, and these speakers are a thing of beauty. If my wife's face were ripped open by a horrible accident, I could patch her with paper and glue, or a staple gun for that matter. She would want, and I too, the closest resemblance to her original beauty as possible.
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Skywatcher said:
Absolutely true. The hard part with this is going to be the aged paper. Any kind of glue or coating will stick out like a sore thumb.
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here are a couple more pics, one of the full backside repair. it doesnt look bad on this side and the glue they used is very stiff and the whole area feels very solid not a rubbery glue. any ideas as to what could be done with the front to improve looks?

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that hole in the front is where that brace like piece is and the cone material is folded a bit up on it and glue on top
 
Use it as-is for now, looks like they may have done the best minimalist repair possible under the circumstances without an imbalance of added mass. If problems occur, deal with them then, and until if, just enjoy them.
 
Pio1980 said:
Use it as-is for now, looks like they may have done the best minimalist repair possible under the circumstances without an imbalance of added mass. If problems occur, deal with them then, and until if, just enjoy them.
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yes despite the appearance it feels like a very solid repair and i have not heard any degradation in the sound at least to my ears. i just wonder if it will hold up over time without some sort of material there
 
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