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Recommended cartridges for Yamaha GT-2000

OK, thanks for that. I thought I saw reference to people using the linked calculator, but I was unsure how they were getting results without inputting the data. If the best information available is to look for a combined headshell and cartridge weight at 18-19 grams, I can work with that and start with those cartridges people here have discussed. I have about 6 weeks to investigate as I have to build a phono stage before I need a cartridge.

Thanks for your help and patience and have a great day.
I have never used the calculator. I'm one of those people who just mounts a cartridge on the arm. Aligns it and listens to the result. I base my conclusions on use rather than browsing the web. When the vast majority of one's life pre-dated the internet, one tends to operate as if it didn't exist with regard to the things one worked with prior to the internet.
 
There's definitely more information about the 2000 series here than anywhere else on the internet. Starting a conversation with a particular 2000 owner who uses a Hana might be valuable.
Yes, I agree. I saw that a guy in Perth, Western Australia that does turntable work really loves the GT-2000 and recommends the Hana. Also people who have built the phono stage I am building (for different turntables) also like the Hana, so that is certainly high on my list to consider.
 
Mike from Liquid audio seems like a nice and helpful, knowledgable guy. I have some issues with his write ups about the GT 2000. Firstly he serviced one GT 2000. In his write-up about it he said there was some slack 'play' in the motor bearing. He then took a close up picture of the thrust pad which the motor/platter bearing sits upon. He correctly concluded that it was cracked. That was an indication of a damaged bearing probably caused by the entire turntable being shipped with the platter on and then dropped multiple times during the shipping.

That means that he wasn't actually commenting on a properly operating GT 2000. They don't come from the factory with bearing play and they definitely don't come from the factory with a split bearing thrust pad. Mike 'serviced' a critically damaged GT 2000. Gave it a spruce up and forwarded it to the owner. I don't think that was fair to the owner. The owner should have been sending it back to Japan.

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A closer look at that particular bearing thrust pad showing that the crack extends from one side of the thrust pad to the other. Crossing the very point where the spindle touches the thrust pad. That has gotta create noise. Mike just screws it back on and does nothing about it.

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I came back to this thread because I saw that you weren't getting further answers. On re-reading the first two pages of this thread. I saw that the other owners had done a lot of experimenting with different headshells and cartridges in combination. Which is why upon my return I directed you toward the content in this thread and the social group thread. You will not find better advice. Anywhere. Even Japanese blogs(and vlogs) don't give the advice found here at AudioKarma. Which again is why I suggested that reading the postings from the other 2000 series owners was your best bet. Your "I like to do it myself" post kind of brushed that suggestion off. Well I can't give anyone better advice regarding learning about the 2000 series. The owner-base here for English language speakers is unparalleled. It pays to meander through the content. Slowly. There's a lot to consider and the owners have been good enough to share it.

I had another owner on the social thread get very, very peeved when I suggested that he should search the social thread. He felt insulted and acted like I had given him the brush-off. What I had given him was the best advice but he wanted to stir up some antagonism. With the information here, hundreds of pages of it(and there was much more previously), doing a search of the long GT 2000 series threads is actually the best way to narrow-down specific questions and isolate the specific posting on that aspect. The peeved 2000 owner spat the dummy when he would have done himself a favour by following my suggestion. I apologise for coming across as gruff but I have given you my best advice at every step.
 
By the way Johnny and candyflop, if you are reading this, I gave you the best advice and you gave me a kick in the balls by way of thanks. Way to go. :thumbsdown:
 
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I came back to this thread because I saw that you weren't getting further answers. On re-reading the first two pages of this thread. I saw that the other owners had done a lot of experimenting with different headshells and cartridges in combination. Which is why upon my return I directed you toward the content in this thread and the social group thread. You will not find better advice. Anywhere. Even Japanese blogs(and vlogs) don't give the advice found here at AudioKarma. Which again is why I suggested that reading the postings from the other 2000 series owners was your best bet. Your "I like to do it myself" post kind of brushed that suggestion off. Well I can't give anyone better advice regarding learning about the 2000 series. The owner-base here for English language speakers is unparalleled. It pays to meander through the content. Slowly. There's a lot to consider and the owners have been good enough to share it.

I had another owner on the social thread get very, very peeved when I suggested that he should search the social thread. He felt insulted and acted like I had given him the brush-off. What I had given him was the best advice but he wanted to stir up some antagonism. With the information here, hundreds of pages of it(and there was much more previously), doing a search of the long GT 2000 series threads is actually the best way to narrow-down specific questions and isolate the specific posting on that aspect. The peeved 2000 owner spat the dummy when he would have done himself a favour by following my suggestion. I apologise for coming across as gruff but I have given you my best advice at every step.
Thanks, your posts have been helpful. I think I was just a little overwhelmed and perhaps confused with the amount of information available here and thought I may have missed something or misinterpreted what I read. I had certainly read the whole thread (and other threads) prior to posting questions. Looking back, I can see how my posts may not have reflected that I had done the reading and that it may have looked like I was one of those people who expect to do no work and have everyone else do the work for them.

Thankfully you have now given me another task. My GT-2000 arrived a few days ago. The platter had been removed from the table for shipping, however I will now certainly be looking at the bearing for signs of damage.

Thanks again, I am really looking forward to getting my GT-2000 up and running. When I get it running I will certainly report back here with what cartridge I decided to fit and how I think it sounds.
 
The Hana will be a great cartridge by all accounts and you are going to love the GT 2000.
 
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Yes, I did manage to work out the platter lifting bolts myself without having to ask :)
 

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The type of Collared Eye Bolts need to fit the platter of the GT 2000 series.

 
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by the way, it was me who used the Korf calculator..
And I used 9g as the effective mass of the YA39 tonearm. (But I've never actually confirmed whether that number is correct.. I just found 22g to be unrealistically high)

It's crazy that nobody has ever measured the tonearm mass.. What do you need to do that? :rolleyes:


besides.
If we assume the tonearm to be 22g effective mass, then my Denon DL-103R on the Denon Cartridge would be a perfect fit at 35g total tonearm mass. (Even Caffe Latte would have to shut up about it.. but since he kept telling me how the Denon was not suitable for the Yamaha, I'm confident that he has measured the effective mass of the tonearm to actually be 9g and not 22g...)
 
I remember when Beobloke first used his GT 2000, he initially mounted a Denon 103. Which model 103 I'm not certain. The thread quoted below would detail it. He basically was very impressed with how well the Denon played on the YA-39.

 
by the way, it was me who used the Korf calculator..
And I used 9g as the effective mass of the YA39 tonearm. (But I've never actually confirmed whether that number is correct.. I just found 22g to be unrealistically high)

It's crazy that nobody has ever measured the tonearm mass.. What do you need to do that? :rolleyes:


besides.
If we assume the tonearm to be 22g effective mass, then my Denon DL-103R on the Denon Cartridge would be a perfect fit at 35g total tonearm mass. (Even Caffe Latte would have to shut up about it.. but since he kept telling me how the Denon was not suitable for the Yamaha, I'm confident that he has measured the effective mass of the tonearm to actually be 9g and not 22g...)
I don't know that Cafe Latte has even laid eyes on the GT 2000 let alone 'measured' the effective mass of the tonearm.

The effective mass of a tonearm is never determined without a headshell. Please don't try and argue that it is. The effective mass figure cannot be arrived at minus the headshell since everything has to be taken into account. Arm and headshell combined. Given that a HS-11 headshell is 12.5 grams, how can the arm's total effective mass be 9 grams? It's obvious that 22 grams is the effective mass minus a cartridge.
 
I remember when Beobloke first used his GT 2000, he initially mounted a Denon 103. Which model 103 I'm not certain. The thread quoted below would detail it. He basically was very impressed with how well the Denon played on the YA-39.

Just a bog standard DL-103; nothing fancy.

It's still on there and still sounding incredible.
 
I bit the bullet and ordered a cartridge while I am waiting for my phono stage kit parts to arrive. I have also swapped out the internal 100 volt transformer for a 230 volt unit.

I stretched and went for the Hana ML. I am interested to hear how this sounds after it all comes together.
 
so, 22g on the YA-39 and you add the cartridge on top. (Makes handling the calculator a lot easier)
and that would put it very comfortably into "matches with a HELL of a LOT of different cartridges" territory.
 
You went with the ML. It will last longer and be kinder to your inner grooves. :thumbsup:

I've never been a total fan of the stock arms. That may actually make some people laugh because all of my praise of the 2000s has been made using only Yamaha GT 2000 arms(plural). So the end result with the Yamaha arms is superb. Obviously then I think it could be better with some other arms. I don't think that I would use one of the Yamaha 2000 series arms on another non GT 2000 turntable and take the best traits of a GT 2000 over to that non GT 2000 in doing so. Does that make sense? I don't hate the Yamaha GT 2000 arms but I don't think that they are what makes those turntables the force that they are.

Whereas the motor/motor control electronics in that plinth is excellent. It works really well. The are testimonies on the net from people who have had both side to side and the GT 2000 edges out some really well regarded Japanese direct drives. That is not about the Exclusive P3 or the SP10 Mk 3. I have never seen a head to head commeent about those two with a GT 2000. Maybe the GT 2000X. There is one multi TOTL Japanese direct drive owner who adores the GT 2000X he owns and doesn't own a GT 2000. He resides in Japan, has a Denon DP-100 a Exclusive P3 and a L-07D is familiar with Denon's DP80(which he praises as great value). The GT 2000X he says is special. I've seen two comments from different people who have side to side compared the Kenwood KP-1100 with a GT 2000(not X). Both said it wasn't close. Beobloke has a completely destroyed, damaged spindle/ thrust plate demolished and rehabbed by a third party. Despite owning some of the best Japanese DDs he said above is delighted with it. I don't think he has heard what the GT 2000 can do. It is an exceptional sounding series with the 2000X usually nominated as the best of the series.

Notice also that Mark B has said(in the Social Group thread) explicitly that the addition of the heavier platter was the biggest improvement any accessory made to the sound of a GT 2000(and that was a 2000, not a 2000L or 2000X). What that means again is that until one has heard what a 2000 series turntable can do with the heavier platter, one has not heard the complete capability of the series. That was with a stock(YA-39) arm.

I think that a GT 2000 with the YOP or equivalent, the heavier platter and a better arm than either of the Yamaha arms would make most people swoon with how good a vintage turntable of any nationality could sound. Properly isolated would have them completely blown away. Most of us GT 2000 series owners don't have the complete picture of what it can do/how far the excellence can extend. My experiments, and I would say acheivements, with isolation indicate that no matter how one has their 2000 series setup(outboard power supply/ heavier platter/ better arm/ 2000X) until they properly isolate their table they don't have a clue what it can sound like.

There's a lot of scope to make an exceptional sounding base model into a turntable which could hold its own with much more costly turntables. Sure it will cost more to do that but one can cut costs with non-original substitutes for the YOP and YGT. Then for peanuts(in relative terms) one gets a super turntable.

If you want to get ridiculous, one replinths with a densified wood plinth and who knows where that takes the package? Once we talk about replinthing: any arm or multi-arm is possible. The GT 2000 journey can be one of buy a GT 2000, settle there and be like the cat that has the cream or one can incrementally take it to where it was made to be taken and beyond. Settle for stock basic and be smitten. Or get adventurous. There are no losers whichever journey one takes.

My ideal GT 2000(L/X) would be with YOP/YGT or equivalent, replinthed densified wood Kuzma 4 point or Saffire(for heavier cartridges) properly isolated. For the money spent that would be unequalled at that price.
 
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Thanks. Still waiting for the cart to arrive and the phono amp kit. While I have modified the internal power supply for 230 volts, I have started down the path of a DIY YOP-1 clone. That is, a proper 24 volt / 6 volt sensing supply to allow platter braking. I figure I can play around with that build while still having the turntable working on the modified internal supply. I have done this as I like having projects rather than expecting a massive difference in performance. It will be fun to see what difference it actually makes. I will update in either the GT-2000 social thread and/or the GT-2000 external power supply thread.
 
Coming soon from Audio Technica:

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10.1 grams and 0.42mV output voltage. This could work well with the YSA-1 arm and a variety of MC phono amps. I might eventually consider this for my Centennial setup.
 
Microline stylus on boron cantilever? Should sound nice. The bonus being that it looks purdy. The best looking AT33 yet.
 
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