But you can use the best solution in the world and damage records by the method and application. My thoughts are the least the groove are touched physicaly and the record handled the better one is even with what you might call harmful as a solution.
Record Cleaning: Developing the Best Possible Methods
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So let's reasonably estimate and round off and say your ketchup bottle is around 300 ml and your 5 drops is about 0.3 ml. This is a 1000 fold dilution so your pH likely goes from 1 to 4. This is still acidic. For comparison, your teeth are very tough, but dental damage can occur below pH 5 and you've likely seen experimental results of Coke (ph ~3.5) on teeth. Rough example, but I'm trying to get something you can relate to.Well Vince let me get the beakers out and see if I can come up with the answer for you
Seriously My alcohol & water mix is 1 Gallon of distilled water minus 8 oz which I add 8 oz of 91% isopropyl alcohol to. Then I use a 10 oz plastic bottle which I add sorry I really don't have a beaker 4 or 5 drops of the jet dry to then add the mix to the top.
Help me with the math Mr. Wizard! I'm probably destroying my records aren't i? Although it seems to work really well as I use a shop vac system to vacuum it.
Indeed. I can't argue with that!
Trekmaster
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Damn it I knew it. Ok looks like I'll give that stuff on Amazon a try. Maybe I'll buy a beaker to mix it in
Then it's just distilled and a little alcohol as per the recipe from earlier in the thread. Got it. Has there been a recipe for dummies conversion posted yet? Like How much of the soap mixture for a gallon of distilled water and alcohol? If so sorry for asking again I'll go re read through again.Seriously thanks for taking the time to help me get it right
Of course not
I Ultrasonic in a 10L tank, 2gal distilled water two drops photo flow, two drops dish soap. and about 3oz of 90% alcohol, @ 45c and drip dry....
I really can eliminate the soap as the alcohol will do a little degreasing.
Oh I don't listen to people online
At those low concentrations, it's likely the ultrasonic disruption does most of the work and I wouldn't change much if you are not experiencing any static issues. Methods employing large dilution factors and strong mechanical disruption are hard to beat.
Interesting idea...but I'll let you be the one to tell wrbear he has to search out and buy yet another ingredient! I know they use this in products like Simple Green, but don't think it is really necessary in our application. I've never experimented with it.
Well the best thing with ultrasonic cleaning is the expansion and contraction, it pulls every bit of static out of the record.
ripblade
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Me neither!
James, you can also get Tergitol on that site. They have Tergitol Np6 (another good non-ionic detergent) at $22 for 500ml. I only mention this as it is just as effective as Triton but you may find it easier to work with.
Says the guy who's already telling people to buy several hard-to-finds and hard-to-mixes. Interesting response to a helpful suggestion. Anyway, I got the idea from this little group of people who have experimented with it. And as you say, it's not hard to find in normal stores.
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wrbear
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Just to add a little something into the "mix" here (see what I did there). Not sure how many times most of you deep clean your records. I will probably clean them this way once they enter my home. I'm taking care of them in a controlled environment vs the places they came from, if bought used. I don't see a need to clean them heavily more than that for me. I handle and store them with care and don't drink/eat and drive. The solutions I use are more than likely going to be used once (at my age). I then lightly clean them on the table with a good store bought product. Not sure what others do.
As far as Lysol I was just looking at the percentage (touted) of bacteria it addressed. Some of the used record finds are pretty dirty. Then.....I found this just now....
"We would recommend that one wipe is applied in one application to one surface, and then discarded," Williams said. "This is in an attempt to prevent the transfer of bacteria to different surfaces."
Not sure if the vacuum wand has this effect.......Somebody save me!!!!!!
As far as Lysol I was just looking at the percentage (touted) of bacteria it addressed. Some of the used record finds are pretty dirty. Then.....I found this just now....
"We would recommend that one wipe is applied in one application to one surface, and then discarded," Williams said. "This is in an attempt to prevent the transfer of bacteria to different surfaces."
Not sure if the vacuum wand has this effect.......Somebody save me!!!!!!
Gentle heating should bring it back. Bring the container to room temperature, then run it under hot water while swirling.
Nobody is saying this detergent doesn't work. I'm just saying you can do better with very little effort. If you aren't experiencing any issues with static using your method, then great...you've somehow beaten the odds. Keep on trucking.
Maybe that is the theory behind Photoflo, which is essentially a mix of propylene glycol and triton. It's not the alkyl ether of the glycol, but it does disrupt surface tension. My issue with this, based on experience with the related ethylene glycols, is that they are gummy or waxy and may leave a sticky film behind. Think about how antifreeze feels between your fingers. Maybe the glycol ethers aren't so oily...Someone needs to study this further.
Good info! Drip marks mean something is sticking to the surface which I'm sure will affect the sound, likely in a negative way. It must be the residual glycol. Do most photographers use it with distilled water?
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