Sebastian Vettel on pole
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epifanatic
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I'm sorry but, I thought the whole point of racing was to win. I understand the money aspect but damn, from a fans standpoint the whole team orders thing sucks!
I mean if Fangio were in Vettels position, being told not to pass, he would have gotten out of his car and put his cigarette out in Horners eye.
I mean if Fangio were in Vettels position, being told not to pass, he would have gotten out of his car and put his cigarette out in Horners eye.
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a.wayne
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Its a lot deeper than that, Faux3 (Vettel)is a made Driver , like faux7 before him , his arrogance will be the same , same limited talent , in equal cars he was slower than all his teammates ..
Webber
Heidfell
Scott speed
Luizi
RB needs a german champion, Horner and Newey cant change that , WWF1 ..
a.wayne
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Different era Fangio's teammate would have to move over or turn over their car to Fangio during a race , it was in his contract ...
Schumacher duplicated it ..
a.wayne
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Err , what ...
Only three of the drivers above are real WDC level drivers and only two are shoulders above the rest ...
Yep ...
bogle111
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Err , what ...
Only three of the drivers above are real WDC level drivers and only two are shoulders above the rest ...
Yep ...
Which three are you referring to?
You have to try to keep a little peace between rival teammates, but keeping a young multiple and defending world champion behind a much older and less accomplished number 2 is still a tough call. As long as Red Bull finishes 1-2, it's better for Webber to be mad at Vettel than at the team for telling him let Vettel pass.
The way it played out, Vettel (who has the best chance of getting his 4th straight as opposed to Webber winning a championship) gets maximum points, Red Bull gets maximum points, Vettel gets scolded like a petulant kid. Webber doesn't take kindly to being told to play second fiddle, he'd carry some resentment if told to give up the position. He's pissed, but at least he's not pissed at Red Bull, and Red Bull needs to keep both cars in the points. If Webber had of lost his cool, it could have been a double DNF.
The way it played out, Vettel (who has the best chance of getting his 4th straight as opposed to Webber winning a championship) gets maximum points, Red Bull gets maximum points, Vettel gets scolded like a petulant kid. Webber doesn't take kindly to being told to play second fiddle, he'd carry some resentment if told to give up the position. He's pissed, but at least he's not pissed at Red Bull, and Red Bull needs to keep both cars in the points. If Webber had of lost his cool, it could have been a double DNF.
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kneeOhFight
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**** me, not another still embittered Schumacher hater after all these years :lmao:
So, in summary, all ten of these two German drivers World Championships were a sham? Neither is a proper racing driver?
Child, please.
a.wayne
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There was no defiance , Vettel was following team orders, in case it flew over your head cupcakes ..
PS: research before reaching for the shifter ..
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a.wayne
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Alonso and Hamilton , the faux WDC are Vettel and Button ..
bogle111
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Ah yes, I see what you mean.
It should also be pointed out that Vettel endangered the teams 1-2 finish by his manouvre, and that Horner did not tell Vettel to get back behind Webber. It may appear that there are "two strategies" going on in the team.
Vettel can't obey team orders and now Horner looks like a weak puppet manager. A lot more here has been lost than just Webber's seven points.
It should also be pointed out that Vettel endangered the teams 1-2 finish by his manouvre, and that Horner did not tell Vettel to get back behind Webber. It may appear that there are "two strategies" going on in the team.
Vettel can't obey team orders and now Horner looks like a weak puppet manager. A lot more here has been lost than just Webber's seven points.
usedto
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So this is what you NASCAR bashers call "real racing"? Some d*ckhead wearing headphones and pushing a pencil tells you who is supposed to win the race?
In any other sport, sandbagging is grounds for disqualification.
After listening to all the hype, I thought I'd pay attention and see what all the excitement was about. What a waste of oxygen!
In any other sport, sandbagging is grounds for disqualification.
After listening to all the hype, I thought I'd pay attention and see what all the excitement was about. What a waste of oxygen!
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kneeOhFight
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Martin Brundle and other former GP drivers muse on the team situation Red Bull faces going forward in this article.
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/189272/1/brundle_red_bull_has_a_huge_problem.html
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/189272/1/brundle_red_bull_has_a_huge_problem.html
usedto
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Yeah! Real men just run each other into a wall!
No, real men (and women) win races. Idiots wreck each other intentionally. And I don't know what you call drivers who throw a race because of "team orders".
bogle111
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kneeOhFight
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This is an articulate, well developed editorial about and against team orders in modern F1. A good read.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...German-saved-procession--Jonathan-McEvoy.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...German-saved-procession--Jonathan-McEvoy.html
usedto
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There is no article or explanation that will result in any other ending than the fact that the drivers are not "racing", but rather "positioning" to a calculated end. As I said before, sandbagging will get you disqualified from most any other sport.
Call it what it is. Sounds more like a weekly tea party.
Call it what it is. Sounds more like a weekly tea party.
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