Signed pic of Abe Lincon is it legit?

[Donny]

Signed pic of Abe Lincoln is it legit?

A friend of mine found this photo in a really old dime novel. Not sure where to get info on it.

 

[EchoWars]

The 'A' is wrong, plus...he either signed as 'Abraham Lincoln', or 'A Lincoln'. I do not believe he ever referred to himself as 'Abe'.

 

[Brian]

It also does not look like him though with the reflection it is hard to see the face clearly.

 

[Donny]

My bad I was in a hurry taking the pic.

 

[Mark W.]

Is this printed on paper? Or a metal? If metal is it copper or tin? If paper is it smooth and glossy or a matte finish? It appears to me to be a thin paper print affixed to a cardboard backing. If so The few processes that used Paper Positives during Lincoln's life would not have produced this type of image. OR due to the extreme length (as much as 3-4 hours) of the required exposure could not have been used to photograph a human (well alive anyway). Do you see any grain in the photo (you will need a magnifying glass or better yet a loop of at least 10 power)

My guess is this is a positive made from an original glass plate negative taken of a Tin Type photo. In order to have any closer guess I would need to see the print in person. Ans even then might need to have a couple collector friends look at it.

 

[similost]

What EchoWars said.. he always used the A.. not a cursive a, and never abe... also.. look at the C.. it has been gone over.. also, if you look really close, the rest of the lines look kinda shakey.. not fluid.. like someone was trying to copy a signature, and taking time trying to make it look right.. you just can't do that and make the lines look fluid.. also, the L isn't quite right.. He always connected the L to the I.. It actually looks like a kid was just labeling a picture to me..

hope he didn't pay much.. as in like only a dollar or two.. looks like a copy or print that was covered with something to help hide the fakeness of not being an original photo..

 

[Donny]

Is this printed on paper? Or a metal? If metal is it copper or tin? If paper is it smooth and glossy or a matte finish? It appears to me to be a thin paper print affixed to a cardboard backing. If so The few processes that used Paper Positives during Lincoln's life would not have produced this type of image. OR due to the extreme length (as much as 3-4 hours) of the required exposure could not have been used to photograph a human (well alive anyway). Do you see any grain in the photo (you will need a magnifying glass or better yet a loop of at least 10 power)

My guess is this is a positive made from an original glass plate negative taken of a Tin Type photo. In order to have any closer guess I would need to see the print in person. Ans even then might need to have a couple collector friends look at it.

It's glossy paper on a thin cardboard backing(looked that way to me).

 

[pioneervato]

It is not a daguerreotype and I doubt it is from a wet plate negative. Whether it is an authentic image of younger president Lincoln it is more likely a 3rd or 4th generation copy. Could be from a tintype or a carte-de-visite or from any other photographic process employed during his time. It's hard to say. If it's important enough to you you may want to take it to a photo historian. Is the "Antique Roadshow" going to be in your area anytime soon?

 

[pioneervato]

Can you post a better image? Try photographing it in shade and turn off the flash on your camera to avoid unwanted reflection or glare.

 

[Sandy G]

The paper looks like a type I've seen that is kinda embossed in order to make it appear old..Again, LOOKS like Lincoln, but w/the glare, hard to say. The whole thing just kinda "looks" phony to me. But I'm no expert, you might ought to take it to a historical society or college.