SL-1200 MKII Question

[BillyB]

Hey.....I have a 1600 MKII and am looking into a 1200 MKII for a 2nd system.

Does the lift at the end of the LP or not.....I dont need return but would like to know if the arm at least lifts

Thanks

 

[boreas]

Hey.....I have a 1600 MKII and am looking into a 1200 MKII for a 2nd system.

Does the lift at the end of the LP or not.....I dont need return but would like to know if the arm at least lifts

Thanks

No, completely manual.

John

 

[BillyB]

OK.....

Thats all I needed to know.

Thanks

 

[Greyson]

OK.....

Thats all I needed to know.

Thanks

Nonsense, i'm sure we can find something to argue about. This is a Technics 1200 thread.

 

[BillyB]

Nonsense, i'm sure we can find something to argue about. This is a Technics 1200 thread.

Ok. I was thinking of getting one and having Kevin at KAB mod one to the moon for me.

I have a 1600MKII I had Scott Thompson from the asylum do an arm rewire and some other nice tricks and this table smokes anything I have ever had including my Denon DP-60L which is a great table. I also love the VTA adjustments on the Technics. Very easy to dial in.

So I was considering having a 1200 modded.....But I do not like fully manual tables.

I also like the way KAB can set the 1200 up to play 78's

 

[Balifly]

Just wondering.

Is is possible and or cost effective to modify the Technics SL-1600 MKII or the Technics SL-1700MKII to play 78's ?:scratch2:

 

[Greyson]

I also like the way KAB can set the 1200 up to play 78's

Or you could find a Technics 1200MK4 which among other things has 78rpm capabilities. :yes:

 

[AlphaEcho35]

Ok. I was thinking of getting one and having Kevin at KAB mod one to the moon for me.

I have a 1600MKII I had Scott Thompson from the asylum do an arm rewire and some other nice tricks and this table smokes anything I have ever had including my Denon DP-60L which is a great table. I also love the VTA adjustments on the Technics. Very easy to dial in.

So I was considering having a 1200 modded.....But I do not like fully manual tables.

I also like the way KAB can set the 1200 up to play 78's

This Scott Thompson fellow you speak of - is he an expert on Technics TT's? I have a 1600MKII with the usual dead auto functions and I'd like to find someone to give it the once-over and repair/refurb it. Would he be a good person to contact? I don't get over to Audio Asylum much, but I am sure I could track him down...

 

[BillyB]

This Scott Thompson fellow you speak of - is he an expert on Technics TT's? I have a 1600MKII with the usual dead auto functions and I'd like to find someone to give it the once-over and repair/refurb it. Would he be a good person to contact? I don't get over to Audio Asylum much, but I am sure I could track him down...

He does a complete job and the table functions like new.

PM me your email and I will forward his contact info along with pics of the work he did for me.

 

[cactuscowboy]

Ok. I was thinking of getting one and having Kevin at KAB mod one to the moon for me.

I have a 1600MKII I had Scott Thompson from the asylum do an arm rewire and some other nice tricks and this table smokes anything I have ever had including my Denon DP-60L which is a great table. I also love the VTA adjustments on the Technics. Very easy to dial in.

So I was considering having a 1200 modded.....But I do not like fully manual tables.

I also like the way KAB can set the 1200 up to play 78's

I own a SL-1200MK5 modified to spin 78s. I use it extensively for 78 playback and it is excellent.

As for being a fully manual turntable.... I guess that's a matter of personal preference. I've always cued records by hand so the tonearm cueing lever and semi-auto or auto operation are features that I neither want or need.

 

[BillyB]

I own a SL-1200MK5 modified to spin 78s. I use it extensively for 78 playback and it is excellent.

As for being a fully manual turntable.... I guess that's a matter of personal preference. I've always cued records by hand so the tonearm cueing lever and semi-auto or auto operation are features that I neither want or need.

I dont need auto start or return. But I do appreciate an arm lift feature at the end of a record as I often listen to albums when doing things in other rooms or on other floors etc...I dont want to have to drop what I am doing for fear of damage to my stylus if I dont manually park the arm.

That is my issue with fully manual tables

 

[Bigerik]

I dont need auto start or return. But I do appreciate an arm lift feature at the end of a record as I often listen to albums when doing things in other rooms or on other floors etc...I dont want to have to drop what I am doing for fear of damage to my stylus if I dont manually park the arm.

That is my issue with fully manual tables

I've always disliked manual tables. I think it is a total cop out that they can't design an armlift that won't effect the sound. I'm too old now for hairshirt audio stuff like fully manual tables. Sadly, that is all you get that is of real quality nowadays.

 

[gadget73]

I have one full manual table and it honestly gets less use than my others, specifically because of the whole having to tend to it every 20 minutes thing. I keep it mostly because it sounds so good though. I have a fondness for fully auto record changers but in a single play, I really like a semi-auto. The self start I don't much care about but its really nice to have the arm park itself and shut the deck off when the record is done. Even if it just had an arm lift function, I'd be OK with that. More than once I've taken an inadvertant nap and woken up to hear my Thorens playing the leadout groove for who knows how long.

 

[BillyB]

I have one full manual table and it honestly gets less use than my others, specifically because of the whole having to tend to it every 20 minutes thing. I keep it mostly because it sounds so good though. I have a fondness for fully auto record changers but in a single play, I really like a semi-auto. The self start I don't much care about but its really nice to have the arm park itself and shut the deck off when the record is done. Even if it just had an arm lift function, I'd be OK with that. More than once I've taken an inadvertant nap and woken up to hear my Thorens playing the leadout groove for who knows how long.

My point exactly.....That is why I have a 1600.

 

[illini]

having to tend to it every 20 minutes..

Well, that keeps the user involved with the music.

 

[Pio1980]

One of the joys of reworking the H-K suspended BDs is their simple and effective EOP arm lift/cut-off.

 

[majick47]

My preference is manual turntables and I don't find it very inconvenient to lift the arm at the end of the record. The Sony PS-X500 "manual" turntable with end of record tonearm lift that would solve your issues.

 

[boreas]

To the OP, this thread just popped up here a little while ago. If you'd really like to have a 1200 MK2 but really want at least auto-lift at the end, this may be the solution.

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=446574

John

 

[flavio81]

I've always disliked manual tables. I think it is a total cop out that they can't design an armlift that won't effect the sound. I'm too old now for hairshirt audio stuff like fully manual tables. Sadly, that is all you get that is of real quality nowadays.

This has been solved loooong ago, to put just an example the Sansui SR-4050C uses a photoelectric sensor, no mechanic contact at all. Another example: The end-of-record sense mechanism on the Lenco L78 only has mechanic contact with the tonearm pivot when the needle is over the lead-out groove. Yet another example: A magnetic sensor on the Thorens TD-145MKII.

The reason you don't see manual auto-stop on premium turntables is because (1) a high-end turntable must allow for tonearm interchange, and this negates the possibility of auto-stop, and (2) the typical audiophile believes this will have an effect in the sound, no matter what.

 

[boreas]

This has been solved loooong ago, to put just an example the Sansui SR-4050C uses a photoelectric sensor, no mechanic contact at all. Another example: The end-of-record sense mechanism on the Lenco L78 only has mechanic contact with the tonearm pivot when the needle is over the lead-out groove. Yet another example: A magnetic sensor on the Thorens TD-145MKII.

Same with the SR-2050C except I believe it used an electromagnet like the Thorens. Same with the Sony PS1800A. The Sansui was auto-lift, auto-shutoff and the Sony was auto-return, auto shutoff.

The reason you don't see manual auto-stop on premium turntables is because (1) a high-end turntable must allow for tonearm interchange, and this negates the possibility of auto-stop, and (2) the typical audiophile believes this will have an effect in the sound, no matter what.
Today 01:39 PM

True. Funny thing, though, I don't think anyone at Technics had it in mind that folks would be swapping arms on the 1200. They certainly didn't make it easy and they already had the SP's and the SL-110, 120 & 150.

John