Sony PSX 60

[Rosco148]

I can't really say the PS-70 is any better than the 60. Real difference is the Graphite arm. Both provide very good sound. I use an Acutex 312 M series cartridge and that cartridge/arm combo produces incredible sound. Get to know the table like a book. It will need work from time to time. Mine always did. I have several good tables (Dual 1229, Luxman PD284, Marantz 6350Q, JVC QL-Y3F, etc.) and I do prefer the sound of the Sony with the Acutex. Good luck!

Hi jgscisum, did you say you have a PS-X7, or 70? I googled that and it seems to be a completely different and earlier turntable:

http://www.thevintageknob.org/sony-PS-X7.html
http://www.thevintageknob.org/sony-PS-X70.html

Mine has the original Sony cartridge- what are your feelings about that one?

Cheers,

Ross.

 

[Rosco148]

You don't want originals friend, you buy fresh from someone like Mouser

Cool, do they have different model options, or does it go according to spec? How do you order (what do you say to the guy to make sure you get the right ones?)
Sorry......newbie.

 

[JimmyEJames]

Cool, do they have different model options, or does it go according to spec? How do you order (what do you say to the guy to make sure you get the right ones?)
Sorry......newbie.

Can you solder?
Do you have a complete manual with a parts list, it is accurate I can vouch for that
Go to Mouser.com and take a look around, capacitors will be listed under "passives"
It's not just a matter of telling someone what it is you want, like give me 4-4x4s sort of thing it involves looking at options and clicking on part #s and constructing an order you go shopping with a cart like at any webstore
There are more than several different values involved and some substitutions should be made type used
I am not spoon feeding but I WILL help you if you make some effort too
I still have my old parts list but it is mingled in with a big order, not going to dig it up unless you are serious and committed to following through
Otherwise, use your manual and start from there

 

[Rosco148]

Can you solder?
Do you have a complete manual with a parts list, it is accurate I can vouch for that
Go to Mouser.com and take a look around, capacitors will be listed under "passives"
It's not just a matter of telling someone what it is you want, like give me 4-4x4s sort of thing it involves looking at options and clicking on part #s and constructing an order you go shopping with a cart like at any webstore
There are more than several different values involved and some substitutions should be made type used
I am not spoon feeding but I WILL help you if you make some effort too
I still have my old parts list but it is mingled in with a big order, not going to dig it up unless you are serious and committed to following through
Otherwise, use your manual and start from there

Thanks, I think you answered my question. I am serious and committed, but I think I will try to get my other issues sorted out first before I try anything else.........
When I am ready, I will do what you suggested, I don't mind doing some leg work.

 

[jgscisum]

Right! And some day mountains will be back in the sea I know but if you re-cap Sony PS-X50 or 60, not so much the 70 with more to go wrong, your grandchildren can play records on it like when it was new
That is why I have big love for the 50 and 60 over 70
No proprietary electronic parts or useless tonearm motors!
The great 1970s turntable wars like receiver war!
Just as important as design is execution and this series is almost perfect, I found one plastic part that needed help for insurance, not like other makes with lots of breaking plastic, I agree with you, I was impressed.
Very little plastic at all in these that's why so lovable to me
X-tal lock and Sony BSL motors work of art
Only 3 ICs in 60, buy now or ask for samples from TI or ADI put in plastic bag tape under plinth and they can play records on this table in 2116!
PS-X60
http://www.thevintageknob.org/sony-PS-X60.html

PS-X70, TOO MUCH!
http://www.thevintageknob.org/sony-PS-X70.html

For lovers of all direct drive turntables change the high voltage and power supply caps if you do nothing else!

I agree on the 50 and 60 JimmyEJames. I also own a Sony PS-2350 belt drive that was a wonderful mid 70's budget table. Nothing to go wrong or age on that one. One of my Favorite and sings with the right cartridge!

 

[JimmyEJames]

Thanks, I think you answered my question. I am serious and committed, but I think I will try to get my other issues sorted out first before I try anything else.........
When I am ready, I will do what you suggested, I don't mind doing some leg work.

I do not want to sound like I am being ugly or blowing you off but just being honest and practical.
Do you have an iron and know how to solder?

 

[JimmyEJames]

I agree on the 50 and 60 JimmyEJames. I also own a Sony PS-2350 belt drive that was a wonderful mid 70's budget table. Nothing to go wrong or age on that one. One of my Favorite and sings with the right cartridge!

Make you cry when you look what that one cost new and dream you could get a PS-2350 today!
I gave my best friend that table for Christmas! Bitter sweet memories
All top line Sony tables were nice Sony reminds me of what Honda used to be with similar high high quality fit and finish
But do you think most people give Sony respect like they don't give to Honda? Because of price and other preconceptions?
You know they also made a few very impressive rim drive tables for their "down market" coverage I regret to this day selling mine, the first brand new stand alone table I ever bought maybe 1975 that wasn't a changer?
Man that thing sounded good, it was a semi-automatic
Sony is weird company though, back when they made bleeding edge stuff they never promote it or bring it to market too late or wrong time
I miss the days of the REAL Sony

 

[Rosco148]

I do not want to sound like I am being ugly or blowing you off but just being honest and practical.
Do you have an iron and know how to solder?

You haven't been ugly or negative at all, you've actually been great and I know where you're coming from- you can't do it for someone else blind- they have to take the initiative. I appreciate all the great advice I have been given.
I have a couple of soldering irons and have done general contact work, but before I do this I will practice first on a couple of dead IC boards to make sure I have the technique.

 

[JimmyEJames]

I have been having another parallel conversation with another member about this table so sorry too if some of my remarks are redundant, overlap or just don't make any sense at all!
I will tell you though like I think I told him, get some good car wax and wax that table, you will be glad you did!

 

[Rosco148]

Make you cry when you look what that one cost new and dream you could get a PS-2350 today!
I gave my best friend that table for Christmas! Bitter sweet memories
All top line Sony tables were nice Sony reminds me of what Honda used to be with similar high high quality fit and finish
But do you think most people give Sony respect like they don't give to Honda? Because of price and other preconceptions?
You know they also made a few very impressive rim drive tables for their "down market" coverage I regret to this day selling mine, the first brand new stand alone table I ever bought maybe 1975 that wasn't a changer?
Man that thing sounded good, it was a semi-automatic
Sony is weird company though, back when they made bleeding edge stuff they never promote it or bring it to market too late or wrong time
I miss the days of the REAL Sony

I agree with you. They were brilliant, then they had a really bad phase in the late 80a with plastic junk that have endless problems.
My PS 212 was so nice, in 1985 I bought a Sony tapedeck that chewed all my tapes from day 1 and could not be fixed despite about 3 returns.
AKAI is the same story. I had a AM-U 61 amplifier which sounded absolutely beautiful, and which I traded in on a NAD 3225PE, I have regretted that ever since.

 

[Rosco148]

I have been having another parallel conversation with another member about this table so sorry too if some of my remarks are redundant, overlap or just don't make any sense at all!
I will tell you though like I think I told him, get some good car wax and wax that table, you will be glad you did!

I plan on it!

 

[JimmyEJames]

Sony was over for me even before 1985
The obvious, their first generation CD player and DAT were top notch
But things like Betamax, better technically and in overall quality but lost in large part due to lack of fight, or marketing if you prefer
Interesting though that Sony supported the format and made tapes for it right up until early this year

 

[Rosco148]

Sony was over for me even before 1985
The obvious, their first generation CD player and DAT were top notch
But things like Betamax, better technically and in overall quality but lost in large part due to lack of fight, or marketing if you prefer
Interesting though that Sony supported the format and made tapes for it right up until early this year

You're right. I read an article somewhere that said most of the manufacturers of good equipment couldn't keep the cost to profit ratio cause people didn't want to spend thousands on a stereo, and the culture changed to one of lots of loud and lights means good quality, and that's apparently much cheaper to do than to make integrity.

 

[Rosco148]

I can't really say the PS-70 is any better than the 60. Real difference is the Graphite arm. Both provide very good sound. I use an Acutex 312 M series cartridge and that cartridge/arm combo produces incredible sound. Get to know the table like a book. It will need work from time to time. Mine always did. I have several good tables (Dual 1229, Luxman PD284, Marantz 6350Q, JVC QL-Y3F, etc.) and I do prefer the sound of the Sony with the Acutex. Good luck!

Hi jgscisum,
I've never heard of Acutex! So I looked on eBay and there seem to be a whole lot of variations of that cartridge, 6, 10, II etc.
Does it make a difference which one you use?
Thanks!

 

[jgscisum]

Hi jgscisum,
I've never heard of Acutex! So I looked on eBay and there seem to be a whole lot of variations of that cartridge, 6, 10, II etc.
Does it make a difference which one you use?
Thanks!

Yes, makes a BIG difference which one you select. The 312 and 412 STR LPM are excellent cartridges. I use a 312 STR M series (before the LPM series came out) which some call the brick because of the square profile and doesn't have the long nose like the later LPM series. They are not cheap and I was simply floored the first time I heard the one that was already installed on the Sony PS-X7 that I own. They use a very different system for the stylus to cartridge signal. Google Acutex and read up. I love em. 310, 410 LPM eliptical series are also good. I also have Stanton 681EEE, Ortofon and some AT cartridges, AT12S, AT125LC and they are good but the bass definition on the Acutex is very good. Another inexpensive sleeper for me is the Shure M75 or later M91. Cartridges are very subjective.... so take it with a grain a salt.

 

[JimmyEJames]

You need to pick a cartridge that matches reasonably well with your arm not by what people say about sound unless they have a similar mass arm as yours and use a similar phono eq and amplification set up.

 

[jgscisum]

Hey Rosco148. You know.... you asked about Acutex and I responded. I'm sure there are other member that can direct you and provide all the info you need about your Sony table and cartridge questions! Good luck! Over and OUT!

 

[JimmyEJames]

Hey Rosco148. You know.... you asked about Acutex and I responded. I'm sure there are other member that can direct you and provide all the info you need about your Sony table and cartridge questions! Good luck! Over and OUT!

I can't figure it out, is Acutex in current production? Who is a dealer?
Is yours an older version? I have done several searches and there are a numbers of suffixes for the 312
Is this your cart?
http://www.lpgear.com/product/ATXM312IIISTR.html
which links to this short converstation
http://www.pinkfishmedia.net/forum/showthread.php?t=123563
What does Acutex recommend arm wise?

 

[Rosco148]

Hey Rosco148. You know.... you asked about Acutex and I responded. I'm sure there are other member that can direct you and provide all the info you need about your Sony table and cartridge questions! Good luck! Over and OUT!

Jgscisum- thanks, your info was really helpful. Everybody's opinion has value and it's not a case of being right or wrong. Whatever you or anybody else says opens up avenues for thought.
That's my opinion anyway

 

[Rosco148]

Yes, makes a BIG difference which one you select. The 312 and 412 STR LPM are excellent cartridges. I use a 312 STR M series (before the LPM series came out) which some call the brick because of the square profile and doesn't have the long nose like the later LPM series. They are not cheap and I was simply floored the first time I heard the one that was already installed on the Sony PS-X7 that I own. They use a very different system for the stylus to cartridge signal. Google Acutex and read up. I love em. 310, 410 LPM eliptical series are also good. I also have Stanton 681EEE, Ortofon and some AT cartridges, AT12S, AT125LC and they are good but the bass definition on the Acutex is very good. Another inexpensive sleeper for me is the Shure M75 or later M91. Cartridges are very subjective.... so take it with a grain a salt.

Jgscisum- you mention that the M91ED is a good option. I have one of those but it needs a new stylus.
Does anyone want to recommend a good replacement stylus that's not too expensive?
I see this in eBay at present- opinions?

http://m.ebay.com/itm/291846337191