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Speakers not working

You will need a cable that is a like this one I think.
Yeah, I think so too. After tons of research everywhere I read thats these will do. But theres a small problem, my speakers are going to be 2-3 meters apart and the split cable wont be able to reach both. In this case do I get two 1/4'' ts jack to 1/8'' trs jack cables and then plug them into a splitter like this?
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If yes , does the splitter have to be of a specific kind?
 
What needs to be determined- is that TRS jack on the keyboard, a MONO jack (left and right jacks), or a STEREO jack (like would go to a computer or a pair of headphones)?

Those require DIFFERENT cables and adapters to work in a situation like this.

If you plug a TRS-to-XLR cable into a STEREO TRS (headphone) jack, it WILL NOT WORK. Essentially, you are sending the left channel to the "positive" pin of the XLR (usually pin 2), and the right channel to the "negative" pin (usually pin 3). Essentially, the signals are, with the exception of the small amount of stereo, differential information between left and right, CANCELLING OUT, due to one being input into a positive polarity input, and the other into a negative polarity input, on the same channel!

The solution, is to first break out the signal into mono outputs (TRS stereo to TS left and right mono, or RCA left and right, or such), THEN plug those into the separate left and right inputs of an amp or preamp or into separate powered speakers.

Something like this:


... or this:


... is what's needed to properly break out left and right channels from a stereo TRS. Then, convert to whatever input jack type needed.


I have lost count of how many cases I have seen this happen. We probably get at least one call every few months about this, at work... people confused why their keyboard, computer, phone or other 3.5mm TRS device won't work with their powered speaker, mixer, recorder or whatnot. Breaking out separate left and right channels is a must.

The other alternative, if stereo isn't desired (say, you're going into a single input on a mixer, like is commonly done on keyboards on stage), is something like this. I use these a LOT, due to their problem-solving prowess:


That directly converts the stereo TRS signal to mono, allows ground lift, and converts it with a transformer, to balanced output. And the output level is adjustable, to avoid overloading an input.

They're definitely not cheap, but they ALWAYS work with EVERY computer, phone, keyboard or whatever that has a stereo headphone jack.

EDIT: I think this, actually, is the simplest solution to the problem here. Direct from TRS 3.5mm, to two 1/4" TS left and right output jacks:


Just plug regular 1/4" cables from that to the speakers, of whatever length needed.

Regards,
Gordon.
 
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One possible problem- is that TRS jack on the keyboard, a MONO jack (left and right jacks), or a STEREO jack (like would go to a computer or a pair of headphones)?

Those require DIFFERENT cables and adapters to work in a situation like this.
My non english speaking brain almost friend trying to understand what you said haha. (Sorry for asking again what you might have already said but I need to understand properly) So lets analyze it. Im going to explain my situation better and hopefully you can understand what's happening better. I have a Roland E-09 keyboard with unbalanced (Left(mono) and right) outputs. I bought my two JBL 305P MKII speakers and a pair of xlr to 1/4'' trs jack cables in order to connect them to my keyboard. Using these cables it just doesnt work. The speakers dont have any stereo inputs. So by buying two double sided 1/4'' jacks the problem would get solved?
(Also if you could help me with another question I made 2-3 messages I sent above yours id really appreciate that!) Sorry again for making it hard for you.
 
My non english speaking brain almost friend trying to understand what you said haha. (Sorry for asking again what you might have already said but I need to understand properly) So lets analyze it. Im going to explain my situation better and hopefully you can understand what's happening better. I have a Roland E-09 keyboard with unbalanced (Left(mono) and right) outputs. I bought my two JBL 305P MKII speakers and a pair of xlr to 1/4'' trs jack cables in order to connect them to my keyboard. Using these cables it just doesnt work. The speakers dont have any stereo inputs. So by buying two double sided 1/4'' jacks the problem would get solved?
(Also if you could help me with another question I made 2-3 messages I sent above yours id really appreciate that!) Sorry again for making it hard for you.

I probably made too complicated of a reply, sorry.

What you cited above, is a simple stereo splitter. That probably won't work, as it doesn't address the need to separate the two channels to separate outputs, so that you don't get cancellation from the positive/negative thing on the balanced input on the speakers.

The simple solution, is what's called a BREAKOUT cable. That converts stereo TRS 3.5mm directly to left and right outputs. Such as this:


Then, just use normal 1/4" to 1/4" cables (like guitar cables or whatnot) to connect from that, to the 1/4" inputs of each speaker. One speaker will be left, and the other will be right. Should work fine.

Regards,
Gordon.
 
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I probably made too complicated of a reply, sorry.
The simple solution, is what's called a BREAKOUT cable. That converts stereo TRS 3.5mm directly to left and right outputs. Such as this:


Then, just use normal 1/4" to 1/4" cables (like guitar cables or whatnot) to connect from that, to the 1/4" inputs of each speaker. One speaker will be left, and the other will be right. Should work fine.

Regards,
Gordon.
Oooooh, alright now I get you haha. Thanks a lot! But what about my original issue with the keyboard-speaker connection?
 
Oooooh, alright now I get you haha. Thanks a lot! But what about my original issue with the keyboard-speaker connection?
Just buy the 1/4” to 1/4” TS cables in the length that will work for your set up. Those will connect your keyboard to your powered speakers. With the adapter Gordon recommended the same TS cables can be used to connect your computer to the speakers.
 
Just buy the 1/4” to 1/4” TS cables in the length that will work for your set up. Those will connect your keyboard to your powered speakers. With the adapter Gordon recommended the same TS cables can be used to connect your computer to the speakers.
Ok thanks a lot for the help! Now I just need to find them haha
 
But what about my original issue with the keyboard-speaker connection?
Nothing has changed about that.

The Y/breakout cable in post #44 will allow you to use the same TS to TS cables with your computer as we previously beat to death re. the keyboard.
 
But what about my original issue with the keyboard-speaker connection?
Nothing has changed.

2nding that the Y/breakout cable in post #44 will allow you to use the same TS to TS cables with your computer as we previously beat to death re. the keyboard.
 
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Nothing has changed about that.

The Y/breakout cable in post #44 will allow you to use the same TS to TS cables with your computer as we previously beat to death re. the keyboard.
Yup, just making sure by listening to what everyone has to say.
 
If you're going to wait for a forum thread to wind down I expect you won't be ordering cables for a long time. ;)
Ηahaha true true. What I do is see what everyone says and then take the information to help on my own research. After coming to my conclusion and then seeing if most people agree on what I concluded on then I make my decision. Thankfully you guys were very helpful.
 
OK, here's what's happening with that original adapter:

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Here's what needs to happen:

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This sends only the POSITIVE input of the signal, to the speaker. The negative input will not get anything to cancel out the signal (it will be shunted to the sleeve/common, which is completely OK).

EDIT: I didn't notice before, that the keyboard had a 1/4" TRS output. In that case, this is the best adapter cable:


The one I specified before will work- you'd just need to use your 1/4" to 1/8"(3.5mm) headphone adapter plugged into it as well, to go into the keyboard jack.

Regards,
Gordon.
 
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Wont the ONSEI ON-Y22210 which can be convinently found in greece do the same job?
Maybe, but you'll have a longer wait time (customs) plus pay for additional tariff fees. By the time you receive it, this forum thread might wind down.
 
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