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Technics 1210GR - Too Much Turntable?

jobrewer1983 said:
Just for fun, have you moved your speakers away from the table while in use? You may way to try that prior to investing in another cart. You may or may not notice a difference. It’s one way of seeing if your getting feedback issues.

Did you use a digital scale to dial in your tracking? Did you use a protractor and ruler to dial in the alignment and overhang? I don’t think your cart would randomly start having harsh mids from one table to the next. I’d say dial in what you have prior to buying more.
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I appreciate this. I realize I rushed the overhang and protractor measurements. Took some extra time to get it right and notice less distortion now. I think having a better turntable makes me hear the errors better now. Still upgrading the cart!

For isolation, my Technic GR is already so tall with it’s current feet. I don’t want to put a thick pad or platform under it (I want the dust cover to open without hitting the above shelf). Are the stock feet a problem, or can I swap them out for better feet and not raise the table more? I do notice the handling of resonance is miles ahead of the AT LP-120.
 
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Benny1010 said:
I appreciate this. I realize I rushed the overhang and protractor measurements. Took some extra time to get it right and notice less distortion now. I think having a better turntable makes me hear the errors better now. Still upgrading the cart!

For isolation, my Technic GR is already so tall with it’s current feet. I don’t want to put a thick pad or platform under it (I want the dust cover to open without hitting the above shelf). Are the stock feet a problem, or can I swap them out for better feet and not raise the table more? I do notice the handling of resonance is miles ahead of the AT LP-120.

I haven’t seen Technics 1200’s with spikes mounted to the table anywhere.
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I too don’t like feet that look crazy tall, I have 5-6 tables that I rotate in and out of the mix. For me I use vibration dampening material on my rack (not the turntable) and I also place them where they are not visible.

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Just mounted this this week ^^

I’m all for cart upgrades, have a small collection myself, but learning how to dial in an arm properly is a skill that takes some time but it’s rather gratifying and rewarding if done right. Keep at it, and get yourself a good quality protractor. Make sure your aligning the cantilever and not the body of the cart.

I agree, having a more robust and better built deck will absolutely give better sound. Tables are a lot of fun. A few others I have.

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Good luck with it man! Welcome to Ak as well! :)

Kind Regards,
John
 
Glad to hear you're getting it sorted out. I recommend you buy a couple(or more) of decent headshells, tho. You'll be glad if you decide to swap cartridges often. Each gets its own headshell, and you only have to align any cartridge one time.
 
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OP update: After getting the Technics 1210 GR, I didn’t rest on my laurels and decided to upgrade the weak links in my chain.

I replaced my Nagaoka MP-110 with the MP-200 and noticed a smoother, more detailed sound and wider soundstage. While a touch brighter, the sound is warm and inviting.

I replaced my Elac Debut 2.0 6.5” with a used pair of Focal Aria 906 6.5” bookshelves. This is probably the most significant upgrade to my sound. They’re brighter than the Elac’s but still somehow stay warm with the MP-200. The mids and highs are sparkling and beautiful and the bass is tight and sufficient for most recordings. Vocals and instruments, especially horns, drums, cymbals and lead guitar are very holographic and leap out.

Finally I added a Panamax Power Conditioner to replace my cheapo power strip. Not only has it saved my gear in a recent electrical storm, I hear less distortion and noise overall.

I think everything is jiving well. I was just playing Sly & the Family Stone’s Greatest Hits and it felt like you were seeing them live. My girlfriend and I were rocking out.

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Benny1010 said:
OP update: After getting the Technics 1210 GR, I didn’t rest on my laurels and decided to upgrade the weak links in my chain.

I replaced my Nagaoka MP-110 with the MP-200 and noticed a smoother, more detailed sound and wider soundstage. While a touch brighter, the sound is warm and inviting.

I replaced my Elac Debut 2.0 6.5” with a used pair of Focal Aria 906 6.5” bookshelves. This is probably the most significant upgrade to my sound. They’re brighter than the Elac’s but still somehow stay warm with the MP-200. The mids and highs are sparkling and beautiful and the bass is tight and sufficient for most recordings. Vocals and instruments, especially horns, drums, cymbals and lead guitar are very holographic and leap out.

Finally I added a Panamax Power Conditioner to replace my cheapo power strip. Not only has it saved my gear in a recent electrical storm, I hear less distortion and noise overall.

I think everything is jiving well. I was just playing Sly & the Family Stone’s Greatest Hits and it felt like you were seeing them live. My girlfriend and I were rocking out.

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You *have* been busy! :)

I think you deserve to rest on those laurels now and soak in some good music. :thumbsup:
 
Benny1010 said:
OP update: After getting the Technics 1210 GR, I didn’t rest on my laurels and decided to upgrade the weak links in my chain.

I replaced my Nagaoka MP-110 with the MP-200 and noticed a smoother, more detailed sound and wider soundstage. While a touch brighter, the sound is warm and inviting.

I replaced my Elac Debut 2.0 6.5” with a used pair of Focal Aria 906 6.5” bookshelves. This is probably the most significant upgrade to my sound. They’re brighter than the Elac’s but still somehow stay warm with the MP-200. The mids and highs are sparkling and beautiful and the bass is tight and sufficient for most recordings. Vocals and instruments, especially horns, drums, cymbals and lead guitar are very holographic and leap out.

Finally I added a Panamax Power Conditioner to replace my cheapo power strip. Not only has it saved my gear in a recent electrical storm, I hear less distortion and noise overall.

I think everything is jiving well. I was just playing Sly & the Family Stone’s Greatest Hits and it felt like you were seeing them live. My girlfriend and I were rocking out.

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Sly & The Family Stone are eerily holographic on the Woodstock album. When Sly addresses the audience mid-song through the PA his voice jumps way to the sides and up at a 45 degree angle almost behind the listener.
 
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