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Technics SU-V4X, first time restoration

Haverholm

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So, I went and bought myself a vintage integrated amp to replace my NAD C 720BEE receiver. The SU-V4X was sold as defective, with sound in only the right speaker channel, so I went into this knowing it would be a restoration project.

I've never done anything like this before, but my mind is set on learning as I go along. And from what I hear about the model it should be worth the effort.

I've done my due diligence scouring AK and diyAudio for advice on similar issues with the same model. So there's a laundry list of things to test in order to get this thing working again.

All I've been able to do after the amp arrived was to check that everything lights up as expected when powered up, and taking the top off to have a look inside. So, it hasn't been hooked up and tested with any source or speakers yet.

The attached photos were taken after only a quick dusting off with compressed air. There is still a patina on some surfaces that I'll get to next. I don't know that any parts have ever been replaced, and this may be 40 years of built-up grime, sort of sticky to the touch.

I hope those of you more familiar with the anatomy of these old beasts can give a first look judgement on the condition and advise on my next move?

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The below doesn't look so good to me. Once again, I'm new at this, but I feel there shouldn't be rust around those pins:

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And finally, a closer look at the area around the speaker ports. I would assume this is where we have the problem with the faulty channel. As I understand it, there could be different causes, but if anybody can narrow it down from a visual inspection, it'd be a great help:

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Thanks in advance for any help or advice you can offer!

Tomorrow I'll try and give everything a more thorough cleaning before I connect the amp to my turntable and speakers to actually test it.
 
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Hook it up n try it..

Places to check

Relay…
Speaker switches
Speaker terminal block

One channel working… this generally indicates power amp is ok - a bad relay contact can certainly cause this issue… bad contact of a dry joint on it…
Check if both channels work from EXT in ports (this rules out or in input select pcb)

Let’s see what comes out of this…
 
Also when you get it hooked up exercise all controls and switches several times. Sometimes a tape monitor switch or other will clean itself with use and come alive.
 
@SVI2004A and @tom3 — couldn't test the amp until I were certain the neighbours had gone to work :) The thrills of living in an apartment building!

There is only a very faint signal coming from the right speaker (which, oddly, is the one the seller found to be working. Yes, I checked that I set the speakers correctly ;) ). This also goes for the remote speaker terminals, so I'm afraid there's an internal issue.

The tone and volume knobs give some crackle when turned, but that should be easily sorted with contact cleaner and a bit of exercise.

The sound in the working speaker is super clear and controlled, so I'm eager to hear how this amp sounds in actual stereo.
 
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Put pins back in… hook source up… play tracks… tap gently in various places on that board… listen for sound on both channels..
If that happens… fire up soldering gear n find the offending joint(s)
 
Look on this board…

Will give it a look over the weekend. Right now I'm just enjoying the stereo sound before I plug the V4X back out :)

It's wild though, how much difference there is between the onboard phono stage and the more muffled NAD PP2 I hooked into the external port to test now :oops:
 
The Technics one I’ve found very good… (if you’re very serious with Vinyl, the V9 / V909 have the top phono input system)
Can’t say how it compares to the nad… as I haven’t had one of those…
V4X having MM and MC capabilities
 
(if you’re very serious with Vinyl, the V9 / V909 have the top phono input system)
Hmm, good to know. I think I'll be in hot water with my partner if I change amps more than once a year ;) But now I have a stretch upgrade goal to keep an eye out for!

Can’t say how it compares to the nad… as I haven’t had one of those…
V4X having MM and MC capabilities

The NAD external is MM/MC too, but it's just... muted in overall sound. It was a step up from the no-brand one I had before, but only that. I only see people mention the PP2 when they improved it by modding the insides.

Maybe once I'm not dependent on that phono stage anymore (and provided the V4X experiment doesn't scare me off soldering permanently) I'll give it a recap and a new op amp. But first I need to get the Technics working.
 
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