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Tell Me About this Turntable

Parallax982

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I'm totally new to turntables (unless you include my experience as a teen in the 1970s when I had a 10 watt Kenwood receiver with a pair of Realistic speakers and a cheap turntable. For the last several years, I've been getting deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole of vintage audio gear. At this point, I have really nice stuff. A fully restored Marantz 2270 with engraved faceplate, a fully restored Marantz 2230 with engraved faceplate, two fully restored Fisher tube amps (a 400 and an 800C), two more unrestored (another 400 and an 800B), a Lowrey tube amp converted to stereo hifi (I call it my FrankenLowrey), a DS-1 single ended tube amp, Klipshorn speakers, Coral BX300 speakers, ElectroVoice EV4 speakers plus streamers and good quality DACs.

The thing I've steered clear of is turntables. Just one more rabbit hole and a particularly finicky one to boot. But someone's been advertising a Rotel RP1100 which appeared to be in good shape except the owner said the motor was dead for $50. I just watched. Today he dropped the price to $25 so I picked it up. Looked perfect -- like new. So I asked the guy for the history. He bought it from a hifi store a few years ago. It worked great until recently. He brought it in to have it serviced. New belt, new parts, he spent $300 on it, but the motor wasn't working. The shop was looking for a replacement motor and then his wife bought him a new Marantz turntable. He told me he liked the sound of the Rotel better but it's not a huge difference so he decided to keep the new one.

I took it home expecting to have to troubleshoot and probably replace the motor but when I plugged it in, the damn thing worked. It tracks quite well. My phone measured it at 33.29 with a WOW of .34. On the 45 setting, it showed 44.87. Don't remember the WOW. Probably similar. The stylus, as best I can tell, looks good. I don't have a microscope. I'll buy a cheap $1 record at the thrift store tomorrow and give it a listen.

What can you fellas tell me about this turntable. I'm going to hook it up to the Fisher 400 with the Klipschorns. Will I get better sound than streaming with Qobuz?Screenshot 2026-08-21 at 9.33.29 PM.pngScreenshot 2026-08-21 at 9.33.18 PM.pngScreenshot 2026-08-21 at 9.33.08 PM.pngIMG_20260821_212938.jpgIMG_20260821_204817.jpg
 

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Hi, not much & there's not much on the net either. All I can say is a WOW of .34 is terrible.

Will I get better sound than streaming with Qobuz-

- no, you would need a T/T upwards of $2500 to do that.

Cheers
 
Hi, not much & there's not much on the net either. All I can say is a WOW of .34 is terrible.

Will I get better sound than streaming with Qobuz-

- no, you would need a T/T upwards of $2500 to do that.

Cheers
Then why would anyone use a turntable?

I should have mentioned that that WOW number is not anything published by the manufacturer. It was obtained using an app on my phone. I understand those apps aren't that accurate and tend to give high WOW numbers. Hopefully it's not actually high enough to be noticed.
 
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Then why would anyone use a turntable?

I should have mentioned that that WOW number is not anything published by the manufacturer. It was obtained using an app on my phone. I understand those apps aren't that accurate and tend to give high WOW numbers. Hopefully it's not actually high enough to be noticed.

Because accuracy is a moving target. Srereo separation, thd, wow. etc, all will be better with a digital source. By the numbers. That's s high wow, but it's only Because the table needs some loving.

Now if it sounds better, that's the voodoo the "numbers" don't satisfy. A wow that high is noticeable, get it down to .1 and it dissappears to your ears. Streaming may provide more detail, records may provide more warmth and familiarity.

The numbers only matter on paper. Our ears don't do math. What sounds better doesn't always follow.
 
What can you fellas tell me about this turntable. I'm going to hook it up to the Fisher 400 with the Klipschorns. Will I get better sound than streaming with Qobuz?
A modest, entry level turntable w/used stylus.
Could sound better today than streaming; should sound better w/new stylus.

The thing I've steered clear of is turntables. Just one more rabbit hole and a particularly finicky one to boot.
Agreed.
BUT, you got Fisher/tubes/Klipsch ......... a turntable would be any excellent addition!
This table is not for me & probably not for you to build around, but should offer a re-introduction to analog for you to see if it is a good fit.
I do not know if the stylus is in good enough condition to offer a fair trial. Consider replacement with a VM95C.
 
What can you fellas tell me about this turntable.
As previously stated, it was made by CEC who made turntables for Marantz, Pioneer and many others. They are well made and sound great when properly setup with a quality cartridge.

The cartridge appears to be a Shure M75 type with an extremely cheap after-market needle. The cartridge is a keeper but you need to ditch that pos needle.


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At this point, I have really nice stuff. A fully restored Marantz 2270 with engraved faceplate, a fully restored Marantz 2230 with engraved faceplate, two fully restored Fisher tube amps (a 400 and an 800C), two more unrestored (another 400 and an 800B), a Lowrey tube amp converted to stereo hifi (I call it my FrankenLowrey), a DS-1 single ended tube amp, Klipshorn speakers, Coral BX300 speakers, ElectroVoice EV4 speakers plus streamers and good quality DACs.

with equipment like this, there is no excuse to use a cheap needle

the Shure M75 series are excellent and as good as any so called "high-end" moving magnet cartridges produce today, but only if it has a quality stylus

these are the best available for the Shure M75 series

3/4 - 1-1/2 grams tracking force



1-1/2 - 3 grams tracking force


 
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That looks very much like a Realistic LAB300 turntable I bought new in 1977. It too I believe was made by CEC. At the time it was one of Radio Shacks best offerings.

It was actually a very good table. With the right cartridge, in my case a Shure M95ED it made instruments like the guitar, Drums and Piano sound more real then my highly regarded 1988 Denon 1500 II CD player.
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Unless you have a generous budget or your quite serous about LP's, that looks like a keeper to me if it is operating correctly, and should do justice to the rest of your equipment. If he's had it serviced it's probably been cleaned and lubed and should provide many years of reliable service.
 
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This is what Google AI came up with. Hope that it helps.

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This is the link to the Rotel RP-1000. WARNING: The RP-1000 is a direct-drive table. I believe that yours has a belt. I don't know how the electronics differ.

A schematic or service manual for your table would be a good thing to download.
 
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Because accuracy is a moving target. Srereo separation, thd, wow. etc, all will be better with a digital source. By the numbers. That's s high wow, but it's only Because the table needs some loving.

Now if it sounds better, that's the voodoo the "numbers" don't satisfy. A wow that high is noticeable, get it down to .1 and it dissappears to your ears. Streaming may provide more detail, records may provide more warmth and familiarity.

The numbers only matter on paper. Our ears don't do math. What sounds better doesn't always follow.
That makes sense to me. It's why I gravitate toward vintage equipment.
 
If measuring wow with a phone app, the phone has to be properly centred on the spindle, otherwise the readings are not correct.

Regards,
It was not centered on the spindle. I had the phone flat on its back, as close to the spindle as possible. How would one attach a phone to a spindle?
 
A modest, entry level turntable w/used stylus.
Could sound better today than streaming; should sound better w/new stylus.


Agreed.
BUT, you got Fisher/tubes/Klipsch ......... a turntable would be any excellent addition!
This table is not for me & probably not for you to build around, but should offer a re-introduction to analog for you to see if it is a good fit.
I do not know if the stylus is in good enough condition to offer a fair trial. Consider replacement with a VM95C.
Do you mean this one?


More than I paid for the turntable but a very reasonably priced stylus just the same.
 
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