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The beast on the bay!!! TECHNICS SA-1000!!!!

centaurus3200 said:
wow, what a heated discussion!

I'm a novice at electronics, but i read the specs on the technics. you can make very impressive distortion numbers with a crapload of negative feedback, so lets take distortion out of the equation for now.

i couldn't find how much current the SA-1000 has. but judging that it doesn't double it's power unto 4 ohms and it only as 160 dampening factor, I'd say it's power supply isn't all that robust. you can't get all excited about how much horsepower (wattage) the thing has into 8 ohms, what does it do with regard to more demanding loads. looks like it starts to whimper. a 25 watt BELL class A amp hit like 400 wpc into 1 ohm! now that's some current!

so, i do NOT know much about vintage receivers, but it just seems to me that whereas vintage tube amps, when restored, can hold their own against modern tube gear, you can't really say the same about vintage SS gear.

transistors have improved leaps and bounds over the 1970's variety. my friend is modding my 1984 Quad 405-2. i can only imagine what it would take to modernize all the crap inside one of those monster receivers.

bottom line, I'm not knocking any of you monster receiver cats. i bet these bad boys bring back lots of great memories. but, if i had $1,000+ to blow on an SS amp, it would be a vintage threshold stasis or a krell KSA-100.

see ya,
Robby
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My sentiments exactly. $1,000 for something that is collectable but not the top of its class is a questionable buy. For the money, I would rather have severals sets of separates that can be put together. How about an Accuphase P-300, C-200, and T-100 that I got for less than what this SA-1000 is going for.
 
None of these monsters double power at 4 ohms. I think the debate is on vintage receivers only. So it doesn't matter if it is a Pioneer 1980, sansui 33000, or the technics sa-1000 they all can't double power when resistance reduces in half. They are not the high-end stuffs like the Krell, McIntosh, Classe, etc... which cost tons of money. But a lot of hypes about these monsters have driven their prices up to almost like the high end audio which doesn't make any sense.
 
Marko said:
Indeed.

Instead of lowballing me, try offering me a comparable G-series Sansui, and I just might go for it.
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What I'd really like to get is the SA-5770. That is a NICE BEAST INDEED!!!! The SA-5560 is but a reminder of what I once had but foolishly unloaded because it had a few cosmetic issues.

The G-Series is somewhat of a sore subject at the moment. My G-9000 is at the Tech's for the third time in the past 3 years. "If it ain't one thing, it's another!". Hopefully, this time it can come home to stay a bit.

One 16.5 is enough for me at the moment, so I'll keep the Technics just because it's so well preserved. Frankly, I've never seen a vintage piece that is flawless like this. Thanks for a lively discussion!

I just got a NAD 2600 and need to hook it up to the 7600 Receiver to hear what the combo sounds like. So, adios!
 
vintagestereo said:
What I'd really like to get is the SA-5770. That is a NICE BEAST INDEED!!!! The SA-5560 is but a reminder of what I once had but foolishly unloaded because it had a few cosmetic issues.

At the moment, I've got only one G-9000. If I get another one, maybe you'd be interested?
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About one more post offering to buy/sell/trade in the open forums and you can kiss this little love fest good-bye. Can we make it any more clear for you?
 
tentoze said:
About one more post offering to buy/sell/trade in the open forums and you can kiss this little love fest good-bye. Can we make it any more clear for you?
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reminds me of the bafoons that want to tax the internet:thumbsdn:
 
trueview said:
reminds me of the bafoons that want to tax the internet:thumbsdn:
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That's spelled "buffoons". And please read the Forum Rules posted in red at the top of every page.
 
theblackknight said:
all i can say is WOW this thread really turned sour.:no: :thumbsdn:
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I'd say the majority of threads approaching 200 or more posts probably do in some way or another.......:smoke:
 
vintagestereo said:
All good points, Badger. Any chance of getting some nudies of your Big Nikko. That's got to be one of the rarest of all. I've only seen photos. Never heard one, though. I suspect it was engineered by the some of the folks responsible for the Alpha, Beta and Gammas. My Tech used to work for Nikko around that time, perhaps he would know. Anyway, if you're really impressed with it......that impresses me. :yes:

-- Chris
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Here's my attempt to give you the pics you asked for. Bear with me I'm new at this.
 

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Badger said:
Here's my attempt to give you the pics you asked for. Bear with me I'm new at this.
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Badger: Your Nikko pics deserve its own thread away from this train wreck!! Thanks for the look at this rare beast!
 
This thread is drifting further off-topic with each new post... lets remember to start a new thread for any spinoff discussions.
 
theblackknight said:
Who cares if it's drifting off topic? WE ARE FINALLY STARTING TO HAVE FUN AND GET ALONG, thanks to Badger.:yes: I come to AK to have fun. I am actualy starting to like this thread.:yes: Thats good, isnt it?:scratch2: :D :yes:
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Just like a dark, windy, country road, you don't know where you're going to end up or what you're going to encounter while you get there............
 
I had a near mint Technics SA-1000 that still had the 330 WPC sticker on the window that I sold approx. two years ago. I don't recall it being anything super spectacular although nothing bad from what I recall. Probably didn't give it much of a listen as it just wasn't what I was looking for at that time.

For the record, I sold it for $1.800.00 plus $100.00 shipping to a gentleman who was indeed a collector in Florida. He was so worried that something was going to happen in shipping that he offered to fly to VA to pick it up (on his private plane).

He was aware that it was probably not the true overall value but it was the last piece missing from his particualr receiver collection.

Just wanted to put the price in perspective. 1K is not terrible for someone who is looking at it as a collectors piece and maybe not even for someone looking to enjoy listing to their favorite tunes. Pricing is so subjective that how does one actually compile a pricing guide when so few show up.

My .02 and back to the show!
 
Thanks, blackknight. I've got Tues. off and am working on your project now. Trying to get the serial numbers off all of them before I submit it. It's something I've been meaning to do a long time anyway. Need to put them in my own spread sheet.
 
theblackknight said:
Who cares if it's drifting off topic? WE ARE FINALLY STARTING TO HAVE FUN AND GET ALONG, thanks to Badger.:yes: I come to AK to have fun. I am actualy starting to like this thread.:yes: Thats good, isnt it?:scratch2: :D :yes:
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Yes...it's great that this thread has taken a positive turn and hasn't gone down the toilet!

However... proper posting etiquette requires a new thread to be started when a new topic comes up so that all of the discussions don't get lost in one endless off-line chat thread.

A previous poster nailed it when he pointed out that Badger's post containing his Nikko pics warrants starting a new thread.

Bottom line... if you aren't discussing an SA-1000, it doesn't belong here in this thread.
 
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