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The Best 50 Dollar A Pair Speakers Ever ??

Yeah, maybe we should get back to the main topic:D In any case, I don't think you can compare the Sansuis to the Victories; they're from two totally different eras. Like apples and oranges.:yes:
 
Columbo said:
Does anybody have some good ideas for being able to turn these things on their sides on a shelf???
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Do you still have the styrofoam that came in the box? You could use that as a template to cut your own speaker stands. Maybe from MDF or plywood cut with jigsaw.
You might even be able to use the styrofoam itself if cut carefully. Wouldn't be very pretty, tho'
 
YamahaFreak said:
They get their arses kicked:huge: :huge:
Nice score, BTW:thmbsp:
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Okay, I would love to thank the guy for posting that awesome ad about Sansui 2500's, but I have a mint pair I got for 20 bucks, and I cannot say enough how I dislike the sound. Horribly midrangy, flimsy back on the cabs, although the rest is ROCK solid, just a terrible listen, unless it is vinyl. I really REALLY want to like these speakers, but cannot make them sound good with any amp.

Just for anyone's concern, the Insignias are a much more pleasant listen, imho. Right off the bat, I liked the sound. After multiple rooms/amps/settings, I HATE (and I never say that word) the Sansuis.
 
johnny ro said:
I did it on other speakers as well, smooths the bass a bit on small boomy speakers. Length is a tuning parameter I suppose, I am unscientifically pleased with 1" lengths of straw sitting in the port.

They keep the mice out as well.
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I gave up cutting 1 inch sections of straw after 2 hours of doing it. How did YOU do that?? How to bind the straws, etc...
 
onwardjames said:
Okay, I would love to thank the guy for posting that awesome ad about Sansui 2500's, but I have a mint pair I got for 20 bucks, and I cannot say enough how I dislike the sound. Horribly midrangy, flimsy back on the cabs, although the rest is ROCK solid, just a terrible listen, unless it is vinyl. I really REALLY want to like these speakers, but cannot make them sound good with any amp.

Just for anyone's concern, the Insignias are a much more pleasant listen, imho. Right off the bat, I liked the sound. After multiple rooms/amps/settings, I HATE (and I never say that word) the Sansuis.
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Well, I never! :nono:
That actually surprises me, since I have heard the 3500's and they sounded good with almost any amp I threw at them.:eek: Maybe the 2500's smaller size has something to do with it. I also wonder if removing the air vents on the tweeters would change anything:D
When you say horribly midrangy, do you mean there is too much, or it just sounds bad?:headscrat
 
well, after finally hooking up my $25 sp2500's, i have to say it surprises me too. these do not have that audiophile-type soundstaging depth i get from my coincident victory's, nor do they have the top-end air of the victory's, which possess one of the best (if not the best?) tweeters these ears have ever heard. and, they are not the last word in detail, but they are certainly not lacking either.

being driven by a modded-up-the wazoo fisher sa300b amp, these speakers have a nice wide soundstage, w/an emminently listenable sound. smooth, detailed enough that i don't feel i am missing anything, dynamic, and nothing jumping out at me as wrong, unbalanced, etc... i prefer their mid & tweet pots bot at the "clear" position, to ever-so-slightly brighten up a warm smooth sound. perhaps the good sound i am getting is due to the fact that these (and *any* speakers in my rig) do not have to see the lowest frequencies, being actively crossed over to vmps larger subwoofers at (now) 80hz.

it also seems strange (to me) that one would think they sound ok w/vinyl & not other sources. as i only yust hooked them up last nite, i don't have any vinyl experience w/them yet - only four hours of fm & one cd. (tho the fm was playing quite a bit of winyl - easily discernable.) but, if anything, i would think he'd prefer cd w/them, due to their warm sonic signature...

ymmv,

doug s.

YamahaFreak said:
Well, I never! :nono:
That actually surprises me, since I have heard the 3500's and they sounded good with almost any amp I threw at them.:eek: Maybe the 2500's smaller size has something to do with it. I also wonder if removing the air vents on the tweeters would change anything:D
When you say horribly midrangy, do you mean there is too much, or it just sounds bad?:headscrat

onwardjames said:
Originally Posted by onwardjames
Okay, I would love to thank the guy for posting that awesome ad about Sansui 2500's, but I have a mint pair I got for 20 bucks, and I cannot say enough how I dislike the sound. Horribly midrangy, flimsy back on the cabs, although the rest is ROCK solid, just a terrible listen, unless it is vinyl. I really REALLY want to like these speakers, but cannot make them sound good with any amp.

Just for anyone's concern, the Insignias are a much more pleasant listen, imho. Right off the bat, I liked the sound. After multiple rooms/amps/settings, I HATE (and I never say that word) the Sansuis.
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Pick $50 worth out these finds from the last 3 months:
Kenwood KL-777A (two pair $25)
Norman Labs Model 8 ($16 pair)
ADC 303A ($16 pair)
Altec Lansing 85 ($13 pair)
Bozak B301A Tempo ($20 pair, one grill missing)
Pioneer CS-06 ($24 pair)
Bose 301 Series III ($24 pr)
 
what is the best way to break in a speaker? drive it close to its max capacity with booming bass for a while, or a moderate playing volume for a long time?
 
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I would use four 1" round stickon felt pads, or even use long strips, its cheap at Home Depot. Two pair of pads, or two strips, running down side, would act as feet on side, keep them from touching or moving.

Columbo said:
Does anybody have some good ideas for being able to turn these things on their sides on a shelf???
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port straw mechanics

I take maybe 6-8 straws, hold in left hand all lines up between extended thumb and forefinger, cut with right hand, using scissors. Do it over a blanket, they jump when they are free. Be prepared to pick them up one by one off floor.

Its easier to put in a port when port is outside speaker, and no glue/tape is needed. With Insignnia I crunched the original port outta there and am using Partsexpress ports which are easy to remove. Have to enlarge port hole.

Just place them in one by one, with port laying sideways, stack them like tiny cordwood, finger in back keeping them from going in too far.

When they fill the whole port, wiggle 3-4 more in, one by one, by pushing out with other hand 2-3 straws halfway, then wiggle extra between these, and push all in. Soon there will be compression and friction keeping them in place.

I agree this straw trick it may cut out some bottom, but these, like most all speakers, are a bit boomy to start with (boomy to me anyway), so damping the bass is good. Rather use free mechanical damping than $$$$ electronic damping.

onwardjames said:
I gave up cutting 1 inch sections of straw after 2 hours of doing it. How did YOU do that?? How to bind the straws, etc...
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fujifrontier said:
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Earlier in this thread, it was discussed about hooking the speakers up out of phase, placing them face to face, and running them for 24 hours at a pretty "active" volume setting.
 
Insignia, with a 90 day guarantee, they probably will blow up on the 91st day. They would with my luck, I hope you guys make out better.
 
Insignia

These speakers are a no-brainer for the price. I have a complete Mac tube system with Klipschorns downstairs with a second system upstairs to deal with WAF. I picked these speakers up today to use with the upstairs Adcom GFA-555 and other Adcom components system and I must say I am impressed-as an audiophile who has vintage Mac tube gear, Pioneer separates, Adcom separates, Teac X-1000 RTR, three Nak decks(Dragon, CR7, RX505) and numerous speakers it makes no sense to me-but I am impressed by what I hear. These speakers seem better suited towards solid state gear like Adcom which is overly bright in the treble range especially with Klipsch products. I listen to a lot of jazz and classical and these speakers produce sound way above their $50 price point. I have only played these at low to moderate volumes but will crank them up soon. Can you get better sounding speakers? Absolutely-but not for $50.00-probably not for two to three times the price. And once you listen to these you won"t believe the sound quality for the price. You may well decide you are satisfied before spending megabucks on gear. You would be well advised to buy a pair and give them a listen before they too go the way of the Dodo bird.
 
I'll second that. I've had them for a while now (Insignia $49.99) and they sound just fine to me. I had a space problem in my living room and they fit the cabinet just fine plus they really have a nice response, very easy on the ears. They are a "Best Buy" alright.:music:
 
coho-osprey said:
These speakers are a no-brainer for the price. I have a complete Mac tube system with Klipschorns downstairs with a second system upstairs to deal with WAF. I picked these speakers up today to use with the upstairs Adcom GFA-555 and other Adcom components system and I must say I am impressed-as an audiophile who has vintage Mac tube gear, Pioneer separates, Adcom separates, Teac X-1000 RTR, three Nak decks(Dragon, CR7, RX505) and numerous speakers it makes no sense to me-but I am impressed by what I hear. These speakers seem better suited towards solid state gear like Adcom which is overly bright in the treble range especially with Klipsch products. I listen to a lot of jazz and classical and these speakers produce sound way above their $50 price point. I have only played these at low to moderate volumes but will crank them up soon. Can you get better sounding speakers? Absolutely-but not for $50.00-probably not for two to three times the price. And once you listen to these you won"t believe the sound quality for the price. You may well decide you are satisfied before spending megabucks on gear. You would be well advised to buy a pair and give them a listen before they too go the way of the Dodo bird.
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Just wait until they actually get going when they are broken in.....
 
Bringing this back again...

I was in Best Buy today looking around and saw that these speakers are now $79.99.

-How come these speakers are $80 now, I got a pair a while ago for $35 on sale?

-How long ago did you get them?

-Maybe 6 months.

-Couldn't have, they have only been out for 2 and a half months!!

He then runs over to his computer to check.

-The cheapest they have ever been was $46 too!!

-Well it was definitely over 2 months, and I only paid $35.

He then proceeded to just about get angry at me, and I was being very polite the whole time...

$80
 
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