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Tips on making Rock music Sound better?

Final_Baton said:
what I don't get with the speaker replies is : his speakers sound fine for rock with digital sources. so it's not his speakers that are at fault and that ''can't rock''. it's only through the vinyl rig that the sound doesn't rock. so the link(s) to tweak here should be in the phono rig (cart, cart ajustment, table, table ajustment, phono pre). either that or use equalization during vinyl playback to compensate. That's my take anyway. peace
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Actually, to correct you, I have not listened to digital rock through these speakers, what I mean is, Digital rock on my computer, and through my computer speakers seems to sound fine.
 
ClayTune said:
Actually, to correct you, I have not listened to digital rock through these speakers, what I mean is, Digital rock on my computer, and through my computer speakers seems to sound fine.
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Perhaps you should try it. Take a line out from your computer (somehow) and feed it through the same amp and speakers as your turntable. Compare the two.
 
It seems to me that I have limited it down to the speakers as a primary culprit.

I think that they are either damaged somehow, or just not designed to handle rock music or certain frequency ranges, as other's have pointed out, so my next move, in addition to a subwoofer, is to simply purchase some new modern speakers. I am considering a nice budget pair of Fluance since they have excellent reviews across the board for all types of music.

That in addition to the new sub should do the trick.

I will try to let you guys know how it works.

Another thing I am considering is thicker wire gauge, so I ordered about 30 feet of 8 Gauge speaker wire.

Is it recommended to use the same wire gauge from the Subwoofer to the speakers as from the receiver to the sub or does it not matter?
 
rothwellaudio said:
Perhaps you should try it. Take a line out from your computer (somehow) and feed it through the same amp and speakers as your turntable. Compare the two.
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Yes I can do a Co-axial adaptor through the Aux line in port as i've done before.

But I do believe it is the speakers. I might've bought a bad pair of used KLH's and not realized it till intensively attempting to play rock music through them, or else they might not even be suitable for those frequencies, Jazz and Classical still sound quite good through them, rock sounds shrill and splattery through them.
 
rothwellaudio said:
Perhaps you should try it. Take a line out from your computer (somehow) and feed it through the same amp and speakers as your turntable. Compare the two.
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And use an Equalizer on the computer, or even your phone, into the system and play with the settings. The source direct option on the Yamaha might be the purest (or purist) approach but that's not to say it's right for this situation. If it turns out that you @ClayTune find by working with the existing tone and loudness controls or by adding an EQ into the system that you like it better that's fine. Go for it.
 
I have always been disappointed in many Rock LPs and after reading this thread I feel better. But I listen to blues 99% of the time and a lot can be said for the recording done for blues music they just took the time effort I do not know but Arhoolie and on down the line are all very fine sounding recordings. And most small blues labels and there were a lot of those in the time frame did very fine jobs of putting the music accross in a solid sounding way. Jazz always seems to have done well but I am limited in the styles I listen to mostly those that bleed into the blues or the other way around. My system is not the best but it is the best I can do at the moment.
 
Bigbeard said:
I'm sceptical of using different equipment for different types of music. If you have a system that is capable of faithful reproduction of recordings, you won't hear the system, you'll hear the recordings.

If a system is good at reproducing jazz or classical music, then it will be good at reproducing rock or electronica as well.
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Then I fail to comprehend why my 'system' is capable of reproducing jazz and classical really nicely but rock sounds shrill and splattery.
 
Montycat said:
And use an Equalizer on the computer, or even your phone, into the system and play with the settings. The source direct option on the Yamaha might be the purest (or purist) approach but that's not to say it's right for this situation. If it turns out that you @ClayTune find by working with the existing tone and loudness controls or by adding an EQ into the system that you like it better that's fine. Go for it.
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Yes but is it safe to assume that when turning up the volume on Jazz, classical and a lot of "Clean" sounding new wave music, if the shrill and splatter effect is absent on those, but presents on hard rock and metal and punk, there is a potential frequency range issue with the speakers?

Edit: I wanted to add in that I do not think Punk, particularly older punk, should sound well produced or well volumized or equalized, but there sure is no splatter or echo distortion effect when listening to it in digital format through speakers designed for computer usage. The mystery is why my analog set up is presenting rock music in this manner.

It may well be the frequency limitations on the speakers, which I plan to replace next pay check.
 
ClayTune said:
Not sure I understand that comment.
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Many post their budget when the discussion turns to or is about upgrades. Most do when asked. If you do not establish a budget how can you push back on more than your willing to spend ;) Lots of $-$$$$$$$$$ gear out there.
 
So,

Since last week, I connected another receiver and same issue with Splatter and extraneous echo distortion on heavy rock music. This is also after adding in the subwoofer, which definitely improves everything overall. But Over a specific frequency reproduction seems to be splattered, the frequency range distorted rock music seems to produce does not seem to work well with my current speakers.

So next item of replacement. And if this is not the causative factor, I will have to go back to the receiver and maybe grab an updated receiver again.

One component at a time really. But I am thinking speakers since the two receivers I tried both demonstrate the same effect, now granted they are two of an identical receiver model, the Yamaha I mentioned earlier but I somehow doubt something being wrong with both of them.
 
GChief said:
Many post their budget when the discussion turns to or is about upgrades. Most do when asked. If you do not establish a budget how can you push back on more than your willing to spend ;) Lots of $-$$$$$$$$$ gear out there.
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What I like about Audiokarma is it's about building things up, at ones own pace. Someone else might have been doing this for 20 years, I have been doing it about 5 years. So I am working up slowly but surely.
 
ClayTune said:
What I like about Audiokarma is it's about building things up, at ones own pace. Someone else might have been doing this for 20 years, I have been doing it about 5 years. So I am working up slowly but surely.
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I get that, but without a budget how does someone giving suggestions know where to stop :thumbsup:

If you do not give one you will get a wide range of pricing in suggestions. As it should be, others may be willing to pick up some $15k speakers or whatever, how would we know that’s not you.
 
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