Tips on making Rock music Sound better?

[ripblade]

Splatter sounds like mistracking. Or should I say mistracking sounds like splatter...

 

[adnick]

Realizing the wide variety of opinions, here’s another one ;-)

Do believe that many systems are capable of reproducing acceptable broad spectrum music, Classical to Rock for instance.

Don’t play much Rock these days, was just telling another member that my music taste has morphed over the years....

Always liked Blues, Classical and Motown type Soul, but tend to play more Jazz and Gospel these days.

However Rock music can vary widely and many of the Rock albums that I still find myself playing don’t differ much from, or even have roots in my current favorites; Led Zeppelin II, Dire Straits Communique, CCR Cosmos Factory, very early Stones, are specimens, could go on and on but you get my point.

From a low end budget standpoint, say something like 1k, believe it’s possible to assemble an acceptable source of broad spectrum music reproduction.

All of the music I mentioned above sounds great on some not too expensive components, a set of Dynaco A35s and a Rek-O-Kut turntable are examples....

This particular system has some moderately expensive pieces of gear, preamp and amp, but other much cheaper preamps and amps exist that acceptable replacements.

In my experience the cartridge and the preamp are critical parings when it comes to faithful music reproduction. Even those can be sourced at reasonable cost, many 90s era preamps are good quality inexpensive items with phono MM capabilities, and it doesn’t take a high powered amp to drive those Dynaco speakers.

A wide variety of cartridges are out there for < $100, Pickering XV 15, Shure M44, Stanton, on and on....

The Tonearm might bust the budget, but I’ve seen used turntables sold with great tonearms go at ridiculously low prices. Alternatively items like the Syntec S220 or Denon DA 50 are examples of “good” tonearms for not much money.

Really enjoy my relatively inexpensive system, in fact it’s listened to the most....

With all that said, my other system, that costs much, much more, does sound better, but there is a point of diminishing returns, where the order of magnitude of improvement is harder to discern....

Not sure what you’re budget is, or what you might need to add/replace in your current gear but there are and will be some great suggestions from the members here—

You just have to use your discernment in which advice to follow

VR
Andy

 

[ClayTune]

Splatter sounds like mistracking. Or should I say mistracking sounds like splatter...

But why? The turntable is brand new, the cartridge is brand new. I did substantial balancing, protracting, measuring, bubble leveling.

Not to mention this is occurring on all the turntables on the same speakers, all receivers same speakers. So, again, 4 different turntables, same issue. 6 different cartridges, same issue. 3 different receivers same issue.

Common denominator? Same speakers.

Have you read the prior comments contained herein?

 

[ripblade]

Have you read the prior comments contained herein?

I might've skipped past a few....

 

[ClayTune]

I might've skipped past a few....

Yea I hope that my last comment didn't sound rude, I think with all the prior comments it helped me to trace my steps back to the speakers, quite possibly.

I Recently bought some 8 gauge speaker wire but may wait till my new speakers come to utilize them.

Edit: And some Banana plugs as well.

 

[ClayTune]

The possible explanations are many and most of them are in this thread.

A lot of rock has way worse sound production than jazz or classical. It's never going to sound as good as "serious" music unless it's produced to the same standards.

I don't know what computer speakers you have but in general they have way worse sound reproduction than a hifi system. They're probably masking some of the problems you hear on your hifi.

Could you mention some of the bad-sounding rock vinyl that you play? That way we would know how big part the recordings play and how much is down to the system.

The last resort, if you don't like clean reproduction of a certain record is to turn off source direct and use the tone controls to mask some of the deficienies of the recording (not the system).

Hi,

Thanks for responding. There are passages on "The Last command" from W.A.S.P that have sounded very shrill, Twisted Sister Stay Hungry, Even a remastered and reissued Def Leppard Hysteria copy has moments of that splatter effect.

What do you think about my theory that thee KLH model speakers I bought used are either damaged, worn out or simply not designed for those frequency ranges?

Edit: These sounds are still present even when turning off pure direct, though to a lesser degree, but still not necessarily a palatable degree.

 

[Nashou66]

Hi,

Thanks for responding. There are passages on "The Last command" from W.A.S.P that have sounded very shrill, Twisted Sister Stay Hungry, Even a remastered and reissued Def Leppard Hysteria copy has moments of that splatter effect.

What do you think about my theory that thee KLH model speakers I bought used are either damaged, worn out or simply not designed for those frequency ranges?

Edit: These sounds are still present even when turning off pure direct, though to a lesser degree, but still not necessarily a palatable degree.

Have these ever been re capped?

EDIT! Just looked these are book shelf and only have a 6.5 inch woofer. Not the best for blasting Rock music I would think.

Also try another pair of speakers, ones that preferably have soft dome tweeters .

Athanasios