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That looks interesting. What drivers are used in it please?

If I told you, I'd have to kill you. :D

Truthfully... I'm seriously considering trying to get drivers of my own design specs for these. The ones in there are nice, but I think I can do better... after having some considerable success re-working drivers for my own purposes (custom recones, using selected parts in existing woofer frames), I think I've developed a pretty decent "feel" for what makes for certain aspects of the sound...

Regards,
Gordon.
 
And, to my amazement, I found the cabinet maker myself, and he was more than happy to quote me directly (so I did not have to pay a middle man to do nothing). I actually looked over the middleman's shoulders to see the cabinet makers name on their quote book, then I looked them up myself...sneaky eh? :D

Going straight to the source is ALWAYS a good idea. The more people the design has to pass through the hands of, the more likelihood of a "telephone game-esque" screw-up somewhere.

In fact, not even handing the specs DIRECTLY to a cabinet builder is even enough, sometimes. I went through FOUR shops that FAILED to do anything I(couldn't even get their act together enough to finish a prototype cab!), before I found a shop that could even follow instructions enough to actually get a pair of cabinets put together reasonably well. And even then, we had to send out the cabinets to ANOTHER shop for a complete re-finishing (a friend of mine who does furniture restoration) to get the finish quality up to snuff, afterwards. Fortunately for me, after looking at the fiasco he was given to clean-up, my friend volunteered to at least do one-off pairs for me (for demo/prototypes) in the future, for truly decent prices. At least I KNOW he knows which way is up!!

Cabinet building work is by far, the biggest b***h about designing speakers. Not many shops out there are willing to do the job AT ALL, unless they can dictate "open checkbook" prices. And even then, many of them can't follow instructions. If you want to know why much of the speaker industry has gone to Chinese cabinetry... at least the Chinese WILL listen, and will build a product TO A SPEC for a reasonable price. I can see why many American cabinet builders have gone out of business, if my experience is any way representative. No offense to the truly good cabinetmakers out there in the US... but my experience is that they are FEW and FAR BETWEEN...

Sorry... rant over... :gigglemad

Regards,
Gordon.
 
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...Cabinet building work is by far, the biggest b***h about designing speakers.

I hear you...I see fewer signs of "craftsmanship" all the time, and sadly the old master/apprentice educational business model no longer seems to be enough, and I am not sure if the tradeschool method will work well in the long run. Good luck if you want a solid wood design with aesthetically pleasing wood grain finish. My grandfather made some solid wood mahogany speaker cabs long long LONG ago in his wood furniture mfg shop as a wedding present for my dad, and I can tell they display craftsmanship that is rare these days, and they are a simple box design.

In my case, I chose a cabinet construction method that I knew is popular these days (fiberboard w/ laminated surfacing). Although I am no fan of fiberboard, I planned to cover it up with some very cool laminates I found while looking at a samples wall (there are so many laminates available that I imagine many folks out there are not aware of). In my case, the end result is extremely durable (daily use desk), which may be of importance for some speakers in some households (i.e., with small kids).
 
"No offense to the truly good cabinetmakers out there in the US... but my experience is that they are FEW and FAR BETWEEN..."
as a heavy construction superintendent, a career builder, I hate to say it, but this dissolution of skills, the utter depletion of the talent pool is alarming..even in rough carpentry...form carpentry, even rough framing...I can honestly say, without exaggeration, that fewer than 1 in 20 alleged "carpenters" have even rudimentary carpentry skills. Somehow, people pass themselves off by doing things by rote, emulating the work of those around them..our blue collar workforce has become a largely illiterate, non English speaking, untrained, and uncaring automatons, who don't have enough of a working concept of what the trade is to care about the integrity of it... the skill of LISTENING is indeed a lost art in the American workforce... is that even the right terminology for it any more?.... the craftsmanship required to execute such designs requires a comprehensive grasp of the trade, the tools and equipment at ones disposal, and the ability to listen, HEAR, and perform abstract reasoning...good luck, friend...
 
Speaker Art by Zingali of Italy

Speaking of cabinet craftsmanship, check out these beauties from Italy...

CLIENT models
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TWENTY SERIES models
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ITALY SERIES models
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BUTTERFLY 3
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yep

Hey Yam, they are made of 1" oak staves. As I understand it, round is the best shape for a speaker as there are no standing waves. They are solid as a rock....and they do rock.

Man, YOU rock. I love them. I agree that a curved surface is the best and I have used sono tubes in a similar manner. They lack a bit in stiffness, but they work.
 
The pride and satisfaction one gets from doing a job well is largely absent in recent times. When I was learning to be an engineer a professor instilled the attitude "design it build it or repair it to last forever". This is how I approach anything that I design build and/or repair. If it turns out to be a thing of beauty (it should) that's just part of doing it right in the first place.

I do a lot of fix it work for friends and neighbors. Most of the time I have to fix stuff that's already been "fixed". I always fix it properly and usually never see it again.

That's not so good for business but personal satisfaction is how I receive my true reward.

They do come back much later. It's almost always because they want a new "whatever" and solicit my advice.
 
My Third Rethms:



Just a stock photo from Rethm...they no longer make these and I don't have a larger picture handy of the ones in my signature below...
 
I LOVE this thread! Still haven't found anything my wife will live with, but it's a blast seeing what creations are out there. Thanks!
 
definitely unusual

here are some interesting pics i just found..I will try to put the link with descriptions to this on this page..if not now, later tonight..I love this thread!!
 

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here are some interesting pics i just found..I will try to put the link with descriptions to this on this page..if not now, later tonight..I love this thread!!

Cool pix :thmbsp: I especially like that in some of your images, a more familiar element is shown that helps with scale. For example, someone previously had posted a photo of the La Sphere (which is a very cool speaker BTW), but as a close up I could not tell how large it was (I thought maybe 2-3 ft tall). With your photo, it is clearly much larger than I previously thought :D
 
Cool pix :thmbsp: I especially like that in some of your images, a more familiar element is shown that helps with scale. For example, someone previously had posted a photo of the La Sphere (which is a very cool speaker BTW), but as a close up I could not tell how large it was (I thought maybe 2-3 ft tall). With your photo, it is clearly much larger than I previously thought :D

Agreed! Without something in the field to lend scale, the immensity of some of these builds is lost, which is a shame, when it's so clearly central to teh theme, in some cases. When I stumbled across this today, I immediately thought of this thread! of course...I knew there was a risk of duplicating a few of them, but I knew most were first time shots for my favorite thread here...:thmbsp:
 
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Interesting thread, but I am disappointed in how limited most designs are -- they are really just conventional speakers in exotic clothing. (And what's most disappointing is the plethora of speakers whose real claim to fame is simply that they costs tons and tons of money, and have eccentric shapes (and Ferrari paint) to more or less justify the expense. These strike me as having all the interest value of a pair of Allegros in needlepoint socks.
What I would like to see is things like the Cabasse eyeball speaker -- a dome tweeter, donut shaped midrange and a donut shaped woofer all concentric with each other.
Or the Wellborne Labs (I think it was theirs -- they sold electrostatic kits for a while) electrostatic subwoofer, with multiple panels closely stacked in a corner cube configuration --whether it worked or not, or blew up amps constantly I don't know.
Or the Pass full range ionovac speaker.
Or the Snell that had the tweeter on the floor (actually on a little ramp from the floor to the tweeter, to compensate for the magnet extending lower than the tweeter.
Or the Jordan Watts in ceramic flagons.
Or the Canon focussed omnis with the drivers firing into a cone with a slot in it (the B&Os are a variant on this).
Or those speakers from the fifties with the hinged door as vent.
O the EV tweeters without surrounds.
And so on
 
Interesting thread, but I am disappointed in how limited most designs are -- they are really just conventional speakers in exotic clothing. (And what's most disappointing is the plethora of speakers whose real claim to fame is simply that they costs tons and tons of money, and have eccentric shapes (and Ferrari paint) to more or less justify the expense. These strike me as having all the interest value of a pair of Allegros in needlepoint socks.
What I would like to see is things like the Cabasse eyeball speaker -- a dome tweeter, donut shaped midrange and a donut shaped woofer all concentric with each other.
Or the Wellborne Labs (I think it was theirs -- they sold electrostatic kits for a while) electrostatic subwoofer, with multiple panels closely stacked in a corner cube configuration --whether it worked or not, or blew up amps constantly I don't know.
Or the Pass full range ionovac speaker.
Or the Snell that had the tweeter on the floor (actually on a little ramp from the floor to the tweeter, to compensate for the magnet extending lower than the tweeter.
Or the Jordan Watts in ceramic flagons.
Or the Canon focussed omnis with the drivers firing into a cone with a slot in it (the B&Os are a variant on this).
Or those speakers from the fifties with the hinged door as vent.
O the EV tweeters without surrounds.
And so on

Point well taken, but this is almost entirely, as you so astutely pointed out, the work of aestheticians, not acoustic engineers, or any other form of scientific innovator. I suppose that would be the zenith...the integration of groundbreaking R&D, and visually striking and imposing design/builds. In the absence of that, these examples are some very entertaining "painted ladies" IMHO...
 
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