Using matching speaker cables?
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MikeT.
Displaced Irish Cajun
With some research, I tried a pair of van Den Hul speaker cables, which is the same brand (supposedly) that Spendor uses to wire internally. Did not like them at all.
I also have gone through at least 10+ pair of speaker cables, some on loan, some I purchased for a good price on line and subsequently resold, a process of trial and error.
I've found a brand that I like after all that and am trying to stay with them.
I'm afraid it's a journey, just like with your Spendors and Ushers and Redgum and....what else?
I wish I could say it was easy, but there is definitely a difference in cables in my experience.
I also have gone through at least 10+ pair of speaker cables, some on loan, some I purchased for a good price on line and subsequently resold, a process of trial and error.
I've found a brand that I like after all that and am trying to stay with them.
I'm afraid it's a journey, just like with your Spendors and Ushers and Redgum and....what else?
I wish I could say it was easy, but there is definitely a difference in cables in my experience.
davidro
Lunatic Member
Sure they're wired up, but the wire is not really some speaker cables with strands.
If you believe cables make no difference whatsoever why bother commenting at all?
With some research, I tried a pair of van Den Hul speaker cables, which is the same brand (supposedly) that Spendor uses to wire internally. Did not like them at all.
I also have gone through at least 10+ pair of speaker cables, some on loan, some I purchased for a good price on line and subsequently resold, a process of trial and error.
I've found a brand that I like after all that and am trying to stay with them.
I'm afraid it's a journey, just like with your Spendors and Ushers and Redgum and....what else?
I wish I could say it was easy, but there is definitely a difference in cables in my experience.
Damn you Mike
whoaru99
Epic Member
Oh, sorry, thought you were looking for opinions/thoughts.
As a suggestion, if all you really want are affirmative/yes answers it might be good to say that up front.
Carry on.
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davidro
Lunatic Member
Actually I am more interested in power cables indeed. But that's another story for the future...
As a suggestion, if you believe cables make no difference anyway just pass threads like this especially in this forum.
What Mike T above did was the sort of response I was after and he did not do a yes man, did he?
MikeT.
Displaced Irish Cajun
I haven't seen any posts about your experiences with speaker wire or anything else. Just sarcastic comments.
whoaru99
Epic Member
What would you like me to tell you about that you dont already know my point of view?
The Kimber wires I have, the Litz-type wires, the plain old zip cord, thick coaxial cables I've tried, braided network wires, twisted up pairs of silver-plated teflon stuff, enameled magnet wire (aka Anti-cables) , tiny 24 ga bell wire? No doubt others I've forgotten.
The only one I think I hear a difference in is the tiny bell wire and there's a practical explaination for that.
The Kimber wires I have, the Litz-type wires, the plain old zip cord, thick coaxial cables I've tried, braided network wires, twisted up pairs of silver-plated teflon stuff, enameled magnet wire (aka Anti-cables) , tiny 24 ga bell wire? No doubt others I've forgotten.
The only one I think I hear a difference in is the tiny bell wire and there's a practical explaination for that.
Adda
Super Member
Once my speakers are done, I intend to wire them throughout with the same cable as I use between amp and speakers.
When I first got my speakers, they had normal electrical wiring inside, but I replaced it all with speaker wire, bass woofer first.
It did provide better sound, but it wont do miracles, let it be the last thing you do to improve a system that is the way you want it to be.
And why not rewire the amp too, if applicable.
When I first got my speakers, they had normal electrical wiring inside, but I replaced it all with speaker wire, bass woofer first.
It did provide better sound, but it wont do miracles, let it be the last thing you do to improve a system that is the way you want it to be.
And why not rewire the amp too, if applicable.
Spektre
Brit alert
Sometimes using the same type of cable can be too much of a good thing, using a dry detailed speaker cable with dry sounding speakers will probably not create a balanced final result. I'd try other brands to help offset some of the compromises one cable will give you over another, its time consuming but can also be fun.
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pete_mac
Super Member
David, FYI on the standard BE-718 crossover, standard fine strand copper cable is used for internal wiring.
On the upgraded D'Appolito/GR Research crossovers found in all of the US market models, JPS Labs Alumiloy is used: http://www.jpslabs.com/alumiloy.shtml
You could possibly change the internal wiring to match whatever speaker cables you are using, but the shorter the wire, the lesser the sonic impacts tend to be (IMHO and experience). In this regard, I'd tend to focus on finding speaker cables which float your boat, and then possibly upgrade the internal wiring in future if you are keen to tinker with the speakers.
Original crossover:
US model crossover:
On the upgraded D'Appolito/GR Research crossovers found in all of the US market models, JPS Labs Alumiloy is used: http://www.jpslabs.com/alumiloy.shtml
You could possibly change the internal wiring to match whatever speaker cables you are using, but the shorter the wire, the lesser the sonic impacts tend to be (IMHO and experience). In this regard, I'd tend to focus on finding speaker cables which float your boat, and then possibly upgrade the internal wiring in future if you are keen to tinker with the speakers.
Original crossover:
US model crossover:
MikeT.
Displaced Irish Cajun
#1 :thmbsp:
davidro
Lunatic Member
Rewiring the amp sounds like too much trouble...
This makes sense. I might try some silver based cable.
David, FYI on the standard BE-718 crossover, standard fine strand copper cable is used for internal wiring.
On the upgraded D'Appolito/GR Research crossovers found in all of the US market models, JPS Labs Alumiloy is used: http://www.jpslabs.com/alumiloy.shtml
You could possibly change the internal wiring to match whatever speaker cables you are using, but the shorter the wire, the lesser the sonic impacts tend to be (IMHO and experience). In this regard, I'd tend to focus on finding speaker cables which float your boat, and then possibly upgrade the internal wiring in future if you are keen to tinker with the speakers.
Original crossover:
US model crossover:
Man I don't have the DIY resources like you. Wonder how much it would cost to apply the XO.
