Not a completely unbiased source then.
VPI To Market A Direct Drive Turntable
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Not a completely unbiased source then.
dnewma04
The Healer
Yeah, I don't know many situations where getting up to speed in a quarter of a turn will drastically alter my music listening experience. I agree that A quiet motor and steady speed will always be a benefit.
No shots fired. Just clarifying. I don't doubt it works well. I just take it with a grain of salt, because I don't know of many manufacturers who will say their newest product is inferior to their previous ones.
What exactly would I do with that?
DougMac
Super Member
Interesting. I opened the link above and found this statement discussing DD turntables aimed at the broadcast market (I wonder who they meant? :scratch2
Regarding quick stop and start times they commented: "This caused heavy cogging effects accompanied by high wow & flutter numbers." Leaving the cogging statement aside, let's look at those "high" W&F figures. The Tecnics W&F is listed at 0.025% WRMS. Their Bardo, which supposedly overcomes the problem has a listed W&F of 0.07% linear, 0.035% weighted DIN 45507 
. How is .07%, or even .035% in improvement over .025? The real question is whether these W&F amounts are audible. While we wouldn't want to compound the problem, I imagine these are better figures than the lathes used to cut the master (unless it's the Technics lathe).
dodog
Addicted Member
I assume that your follow-up was to be, if you haven't tried it, how can you make a comparison. I think Littletoot was talking bout the new DD VPI that was just announced. To my knowledge, no one but VPI has that table. Well, that's how I read it at least.
Interesting. I opened the link above and found this statement discussing DD turntables aimed at the broadcast market (I wonder who they meant? :scratch2
Reg Gandy the owner and designer at Rega used to say that flutter was more sonically detrimental than wow.
He seemed to be talking about his experience in the past with VPI tables. At least thats how I read It. I'm always interested to hear from people who have lots of experience with different turntables.
I don't think I need to contact them to get their marketing material. They seem to have a good website for that.
Art K.
The Voodoo You Do!
His name is Roy!
My Daddy loved his turntables! :yes:
Phyllis
Their is a lot of love for Rega you simply need to find the apprpriate thread and you will find plenty of it. There is a thread at present on British Audio subforum with lots of pics from people here at AK and their Rega products.
dnewma04
The Healer
Interesting. I opened the link above and found this statement discussing DD turntables aimed at the broadcast market (I wonder who they meant? :scratch2
Sometimes, I do wonder about some of the published W&F specs. For instance, the W&F measured on the GT-2000 (and this is not meant to be a shot at GT-2000 owners) were measured at the electronics. While I have no doubt the W&F were vanishingly low even while using an industry standard, my objective nature winces at the thought that they would publish those numbers as W&F for the turntable. Other turntables measured with this method usually have a JIS standard measurement of about 4-5x as high. The GT-2000 likely being .015-025 is still very impressive, it's not the .005 that is published in various documentation.
Beyond that, I don't think once you reach a tiny level of W&F that most tables are capable above, that going further gets you a nice spec to publish, but perhaps not any sonic improvement. I still wouldn't mind a Pioneer P3 with it's published .003% W&F or the GT-2000 and it's .005%.
SteveA
Super Member
All I know is, this looks fantastic.
Yes, the Oasis is definitely on my wish list, even if it is somewhat out of reach.
Steve