What modern things do you hate/dislike?

[DesertRatt]

No one in a store front asks me those questions. Ace Hardware does ask for my ph#, but that has to with their rewards program. But I don’t mind giving out my cell number. My phone has a call blocker, and unless you are in my contacts, my phone never rings.

Stores I visit that ALWAYS ask for phone number: Ace, True Value, Harbor Frieght, NAPA, Oreilly, Autozone. Probably some others that I don't visit often.

I've always assumed that they don't ask because they want to call me or text me, but rather the phone number is a unique IDENTIFIER. They can use it to acquire a profile from one or more of the thousands of data brokers that sell your info. Alternatively, maybe the store is selling that transaction information TO the data brokers?

When asked, I reply with, "Why would you want my phone number"?

 

[0b11011001]

Stores I visit that ALWAYS ask for phone number: Ace, True Value, Harbor Frieght, NAPA, Oreilly, Autozone. Probably some others that I don't visit often.

I've always assumed that they don't ask because they want to call me or text me, but rather the phone number is a unique IDENTIFIER. They can use it to acquire a profile from one or more of the thousands of data brokers that sell your info. Alternatively, maybe the store is selling that transaction information TO the data brokers?

When asked, I reply with, "Why would you want my phone number"?

Well I do have others who ask for my ph#, but I never get asked for address, email address, or anything else.

I don’t really care that they sell the transaction, nothing seems to come of it, like increased spam, junk mail, etc.

If I did not want to give my ph#, I would just give them my previous employer’s main number. That would be the Sheriffs department.

We had deputies that gave out the main number to the elementary school their child went to, or the dept mailing address when signing up for something.

 

[RichPA]

QR codes - each and every one of them
Constant fund-raising texts and emails
Grocery shoppers obliviously using their cell phones in the store
Enormous pickup trucks replacing cars
Needing multiple subscription services to see TV sports

 

[0b11011001]

QR codes - each and every one of them
Constant fund-raising texts and emails
Grocery shoppers obliviously using their cell phones in the store
Enormous pickup trucks replacing cars
Needing multiple subscription services to see TV sports

A minor bit to pick. Large trucks did not replace cars. What replaced cars was the SUV/CUV.

I would rather have a full size 4x4 truck, than some SUV.

 

[Mr Boochie]

WTF? A software update for a car that breaks things?

UGH! Why do dealers continue to play this "It's your fault, not our fault, but for $XXXX we can fix it" game?

Then wonder why their cars get poor reviews.

 

[0b11011001]

UGH! Why do dealers continue to play this "It's your fault, not our fault, but for $XXXX we can fix it" game?

Then wonder why their cars get poor reviews.

Because they don’t care. VAG continues to make money o. Audi and Porsche. And I am sure the VW fan boys will still buy a VW.

 

[DesertRatt]

WTF? A software update for a car that breaks things?

This is definitely the future for NEW cars. Just my casual paying attention to "stuff going on with cars" reveals the following trends.
1, The automakers are claiming certain "right" to cars even after you own them.
2. Big battles are coming over who controls the OBD port, and the DATA it can make available. Automakers want to own ACCESS to the port, and OWNERSHIP of the data. Som if the data is needed to fix the car, you gotta pay to get they data? Etc.
3, Right to repair is in play in Congress.
4. Car makers are planning for a big post-sale revenue stream from owners - add on features, and so on.
5. Telematics being sent and sold is a whole 'nother world of problems. Nisson claims they have a right to collect SEXUAL INFORMATION from all passengers in the car.
6. Automakers are saying new car buyers agree to all these terms in the fine print, and that these same terms somehow magically apply to SUBSEQUENT owners who buy the car used!!!

I'll soon be looking for a 1990s car.

 

[Mr Boochie]

5. Telematics being sent and sold is a whole 'nother world of problems. Nisson claims they have a right to collect SEXUAL INFORMATION from all passengers in the car.

Like a man or a woman. Or the activity? Or both?

It gets more odd every day.

 

[mrswakka]

Like a man or a woman. Or the activity? Or both?

It gets more odd every day.

It sure does. Sometimes I think I have the “excuse me?” look on my face permanently.

 

[Mr Boochie]

It sure does. Sometimes I think I have the “excuse me?” look on my face permanently.

It's getting to the point where one may need a Faraday Cage around their privates.

 

[DesertRatt]

Like a man or a woman. Or the activity? Or both?

It gets more odd every day.

The text, which I saw a few weeks ago, would most likely be interpreted as BOTH. It is one of the longest privacy explanations in the car business.

 

[Mr Boochie]

The text, which I saw a few weeks ago, would most likely be interpreted as BOTH. It is one of the longest privacy explanations in the car business.

I wonder what Nissan does with the sexual information it gets from their cars?

I guess that may become another series for the Investigation Discovery Channel. They are running out of ideas.

 

[DesertRatt]

I wonder what Nissan does with the sexual information it gets from their cars?

I guess that may become another series for the Investigation Discovery Channel. They are running out of ideas.

The biggest market for TELEMATIC data is the auto insurance companies - which suck it up like vacuum cleaners. I suppose, people having too much sex in the car while driving is considered by some jerkwad geeks at the insurance institute as "dangerous" and "unsafe" even IF the seatbelts were connected!

 

[DesertRatt]

Here it is.......Mr. Boochie

QUOTE
Nissan's policy includes this broad category:

"Sensitive personal information, including driver’s license number, national or state identification number, citizenship status, immigration status, race, national origin, religious or philosophical beliefs, sexual orientation, sexual activity, precise geolocation, health diagnosis data, and genetic information."

They state they can collect this directly from you, from third-party data providers, your interactions with their platforms/apps, and vehicle data (via NissanConnect telematics services).
END QUOTE

 

[Mr Boochie]

They state they can collect this directly from you, from third-party data providers, your interactions with their platforms/apps, and vehicle data (via NissanConnect telematics services).
END QUOTE

Well, not much fun stuff from me or my wife. Those "in the car days" are long gone. Now the real excitement is when the traffic lights are all green.

 

[spicer]

Well, not much fun stuff from me or my wife. Those "in the car days" are long gone. Now the real excitement is when the traffic lights are all green.

Or when they go from red to green and you're on the front line.

 

[DesertRatt]

The way all this creepy surveillance and legal FINE PRINT has snuck it's way into a car purchase is telling me that NO ONE with any clout is watching out for the consumers, or citizens at all. Everything looks like a one way street in favor of either companies or authorities. There's no challenge, no pushback, no authority watching out for individual interests.

I admit, that the last car I bought from CARMAX was a far more involved "final signing" than I ever imagined. I was paying cash, and assumed I would walk in with the check, sign the sales form and be out in 5 minutes. Nope. I must have signed 25 documents. They just kept going to the printer and bringing more paper! I even jumped up and yelled at the guy, to GO GET THE MANAGER! Because I was pissed at all the nonsensical papers I was being asked to sign. Now, I admit, I was in no mood to read multi-thousand word fine print documents, so I am not even sure what they were. I was expecting a 5 minutes process and had other appointments to get to. It was downright weird. I probably agreed to NISSAN-ISH features giving up various rights - I dunno.

And then there was the previous purchase of an Avalon which I posted here - where I discovered they had INSTALLED a spy device in the car without my permission. It's just getting too weird anymore.

 

[Mr Boochie]

I admit, that the last car I bought from CARMAX was a far more involved "final signing" than I ever imagined. I was paying cash, and assumed I would walk in with the check, sign the sales form and be out in 5 minutes. Nope. I must have signed 25 documents. They just kept going to the printer and bringing more paper! I even jumped up and yelled at the guy, to GO GET THE MANAGER! Because I was pissed at all the nonsensical papers I was being asked to sign. Now, I admit, I was in no mood to read multi-thousand word fine print documents, so I am not even sure what they were. I was expecting a 5 minutes process and had other appointments to get to. It was downright weird. I probably agreed to NISSAN-ISH features giving up various rights - I dunno.

No one, even a lawyer, has the time at a car dealership to read 1,000 pages of legal gobblygook. I mean, it might as well be in Latin. That's the point of all that nonsense.

 

[spicer]

No one, even a lawyer, has the time at a car dealership to read 1,000 pages of legal gobblygook. I mean, it might as well be in Latin. That's the point of all that nonsense.

In the finer print below the fine print it say the car is to be surrendered at the end of the finance period earning privilege points towards purchase of new one.

 

[0b11011001]

In the finer print below the fine print it say the car is to be surrendered at the end of the finance period earning privilege points towards purchase of new one.

Well that one is easy to dodge, the last car we bought, I wrote them a check. Oh and the finance guy tried to scare me into buying an extended warranty. After turning down his gracious offer, he proceeded to tell me the turbocharger cost x amount of dollars, and if it were to go bad…

This was 2017, and the extended warranty price was $3500!!! I could have bought the turbocharger for that amount. The car is nine years old, time past whatever the extended warranty was, before the AC compressor died.