Drumolator
Super Member
I have hundreds of CD's, and most of my audio systems are not connected to any computer. I have several CD, DVD, and Blu-ray spare units on shelves as replacements when the current ones die. Peace and goodwill.
Why buy a CD-Player?
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I've never owned a Blu-ray player, but if I did, I imagine it would be connected to my home theater for video, not my stereo for music, like the DVD player I own and rarely use. I use my Google TV to stream video directly from the internet. I guess that's why I never felt a need for a Blu-ray player.
Yes. for great reasons, CDs are CHEAP - buy hundreds for 10cent s each. get more music
per dollar than anything else.
SACD? yes the recent/current ones are pricey. but you could find a decent SACD player
for under $25 shipped (that includes the remote).
CD's, been around since forever, you can get 14-bit DAcs, single bit processors, stacked
1541s, discrete DACs, changers. I have at least one of each.
then you digitize to load them all up on a DAP. can't take a CD changer on a plane, bus,
train, taxi.
(and I have loads of cassettes - some are one-of-a-kind, and cassette decks AND
sony changers) these two are used as sources for digitizing. and cassettes are as
cheap as CDs. more music per dollar.
there's a DAP with a AK4490 in it, usable as a USB DAC, and only $99.
so CD, for cheapness, may even have an SACD processor, digitize to something small.
and then you can enjoy the music anywhere.
per dollar than anything else.
SACD? yes the recent/current ones are pricey. but you could find a decent SACD player
for under $25 shipped (that includes the remote).
CD's, been around since forever, you can get 14-bit DAcs, single bit processors, stacked
1541s, discrete DACs, changers. I have at least one of each.
then you digitize to load them all up on a DAP. can't take a CD changer on a plane, bus,
train, taxi.
(and I have loads of cassettes - some are one-of-a-kind, and cassette decks AND
sony changers) these two are used as sources for digitizing. and cassettes are as
cheap as CDs. more music per dollar.
there's a DAP with a AK4490 in it, usable as a USB DAC, and only $99.
so CD, for cheapness, may even have an SACD processor, digitize to something small.
and then you can enjoy the music anywhere.
twiiii
Lunatic Member
Yes original LP's reissues on CD never matched up. So you want a good turntable. You are never going to find Hi Rez re issues of all the great CD's performances , its not possible. And hear again hi-rez re issues will be tampered with by some one who thinks he knows best about the original sound. All humans hear things differently from day to day hour to hour week to week. So any reissue whether Hi-rez or not is going to be tampered with in some way. You must remember just because its digital doesn't mean that what you end up with in your home is a faithful reproduction. I hear that every day comparing my CD's to different streams. As long as it was invented, developed and produced by a human being there will never be anything that is perfect. To much compression and interpolating going on. Why do different CD players sound different? They should all sound the same. Yeah, believe that and I will sell you the Golden Gate for a farthing.
When you go to a live unamplified concert, do you ever change seats? Same difference. The sound will change.
I would like to think the main problem with reissues might be the Monitors speakers have improved as have all the electronics. Not that as time has passed that people tastes have changed and all our hearing has deteriorated.
I had a n original Doobie brothers LP that I just loved that crashed on me so to speak. So I bought a CD it wasn't right, the streaming sources were. not right either. I bought a reissue LP it wasn't right. Then I remembered a former neighbor had a copy and I talked out of letting me dub the lp to a CD. The result was finally right. or as close as I will be able to accomplish. So streaming is not the ultimate answer.
When you go to a live unamplified concert, do you ever change seats? Same difference. The sound will change.
I would like to think the main problem with reissues might be the Monitors speakers have improved as have all the electronics. Not that as time has passed that people tastes have changed and all our hearing has deteriorated.
I had a n original Doobie brothers LP that I just loved that crashed on me so to speak. So I bought a CD it wasn't right, the streaming sources were. not right either. I bought a reissue LP it wasn't right. Then I remembered a former neighbor had a copy and I talked out of letting me dub the lp to a CD. The result was finally right. or as close as I will be able to accomplish. So streaming is not the ultimate answer.
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twiiii
Lunatic Member
Well that's what my ears tell me. I know for a fact that different monitors yield different results, having used and installed quite a few. And tests have proven that we all hear differently depending on the environment around us and our daily environment experiences. Yes I draw my own conclusions but if you will read AES journals you'll find there are a lot of things going on with digital that keeps it from being perfect. Why don't switching digital amplifiers measure better than analog amps, why don't all digital EQ's sound all the same. why has there been a remarkable degree of improvement if digital was perfect in the first place. Why was Ampex demanding 100 K sampling rates and 20 to 24 big depth back before the 16 bit 44.1 standard was accepted? They new from just basic theory that the original for mat with steep analog filters was never going to be the best it could be. Sure that very argument you might want or justify for skipping CD's. But a lot of great performances were captured with compromised digital and compromised analog, that may never be replaced. If all your interested is the science of recording and not the performances their beauty and art , the energy the talents of the musicians, and those who captured the performances, then you are a true audiophile at his best and not a lover of the art of High Fidelity. Notice I didn't say Science of High Fidelty. True lovers of music can listen thru the recording medium to gain joy from a performance, most audio philes can't. I admit I fall into that deep well myself, but I keep trying to perceive the art of a performance, not the Science.
Djcoolray
Addicted Member
The real deal is that there are many methods to acquire an accurate representation of a live recording, its how the recording of the source interacts with the many peices of equipment to create the sound. There are new CD players now that make CD players that were made ten years ago sound like relics. So many people have large collections of CD’s that have been collected for decades containing music that will never be re-released. Then too there are many ways to improve what you are listening too based on the type of equipment. Different equipment, different sound for different people....
Ever wondered what a CD player would sound like hooked up to a tube preamp and tube amp?
Ever wondered what a CD player would sound like hooked up to a tube preamp and tube amp?
cpt_paranoia
Addicted Member
Because studio recordings have always been better than the consumer releases. Analogue studio master tape is better than vinyl. Digital studio master recording and digital mixing is better than red book CD. Modern vinyl releases are created from digital recording, mixing and mastering.
Some streaming services give you better than red book, accessing the digital studio masters.
Have you managed to determine what files you were actually streaming to your Apple TV yet...? Like you were asked to do in the first page of the thread that rumbled on for ten pages...
Why do analogue amplifiers continue to improve?
Why is your current smartphone better than your AMPS phone...?
Why are streaming services better than they used to be...?
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NOT
Now there are 2 long post as to why you prefer CD’s. I believe you, I need no coviencing that in your opinion CD’s are better. For all the reasons you list I just happen to disagree. I find as good or better versions of all the CD’s I have compared on a streaming service, I know this is just my opinion and to me at the end of the day that’s all that matters. Not sure what your implying about audiophiles and “true music lovers” but it’s all good. Listen to what you what how you what, as I stated above that’s all that matters. People come here to ask questions and some state there opinions/preferences as if they are facts.
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cpt_paranoia
Addicted Member
I noticed some still like 8-tracks also
To suggest CD's are not a premium media is silly .
91r100gs
Lunatic Member
All media has it place. Listen to Ambient music all night on the original Amazon Echo. It is just right for music at night, not tinny sounding and not in your face to keep you awake. My ambient playlist on Amazon Music is pretty much non ending, will play for days without repeating anything. Love my Onkyo CDP, it has a Wolfson DAC and the SQ is as good as the media. Also includes a wonderful Headphone amp with volume control. Vinyl is for my OCD moments, which has been less frequent lately. Listen to what makes you happy.
I prefer music . That's why I have nice equipment . I did not spend all this money to hear minute differences , I enjoy the music .
silly .
Silly was my intent
. Mostly directed at those that don’t think streaming services can provide CD or better quality. And it was more of a technology advances statement.
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