L166 also known as Horizons are an excellent classic JBL. Fix them up, and keep them original, and they are very desirable. Most examples I see have had the tweeter domes pushed in, and unfortunately they are hard to replace.I have a set of JBL L166 that I picked up at a yard sale this fall. They need the woofers refoamed and a bit of other work. Do these fall into the vintage/desirable JBL category? Being an Altec guy I never really gave JBL much thought.
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Are they still available? Hate to have to pay nyc prices for one
Yes but any with the 15”s and Horns?Hint Hint . . . sold my Altec 19's to one person in B.C. and my JBL C40 Harkness to a guy in L.A. both Asian gents. But don't fret . . . still have plenty of JBL's in house for ole' cactus.
My thoughts exactly.Expensive compared to what? a set of L96's / L112's will run $1000-$1,500. Compare that to the price of a new set of comparable sound quality/ build quality Martin Logan's B&W / Dali etc. the vintage JBL's start to look like a bargain.
I will go on a limb and say that the guy looking for vintage JBL or Altec speakers to restore is not looking to buy $750K "jewelry speakers." And vice-versa.My thoughts exactly.
Compare Vintage JBL to some Magico speakers.
If the JBL speakers are “expensive” then you must be dirt poor.
And of course, you need to start with your OWN drivers - can't just grab a buncha used drivers and plan for new design success!You say "I think I can buy 5k worth of woodworking tools" this suggests you are not a professional woodworker
what's "absurd" is to think you can go to Home Cheapo, buy tools and lumber and "rival" what JBL has perfected over the course of decades
right, there is a lineage to JBL drivers which they designed and manufacturedAnd of course, you need to start with your OWN drivers - can't just grab a buncha used drivers and plan for new design success!
I would say from 85%-100% returns a much, much smaller improvement in sound quality. IMO, for many things, a graph of cost versus reaching perfection is logarithmic.JBL made some of the most admired/coveted monitors the world (no stretch here) has known. I can get everything I want from a JBL that anyone else offers at multiples of the price. To get from 98% of the best to 100% is a lot of money and very little return.
It can be done. Take a peek at Kenrick. They've done some one-offs that never existed.You say "I think I can buy 5k worth of woodworking tools" this suggests you are not a professional woodworker
what's "absurd" is to think you can go to Home Cheapo, buy tools and lumber and "rival" what JBL has perfected over the course of decades
They also don't invent anything. They use JBL drivers. Sometimes shuffling the arrangement. But that's about it. At some point we'd heard about some sort of leather speaker surround, but that could have been snake-oil or hallucination. The fact is that most of their repro cabinets were made right here in USA by the "Rick" part of KenRick. It's not rocket science when you faithfully follow the original, and the skilled craftsmen involved won't make it cheaper, either. Have you checked Kenrick's prices?It can be done. Take a peek at Kenrick. They've done some one-offs that never existed.
Sad state of today."...and the skilled craftsman won't make it cheaper..." yes sadly that is true, but you can cashflow the ultimate purchase, and customize the look of the cabinets...maybe Birdseye Maple veneer ? or some sort of a burl. But the biggest issue is the purchase on faith. there are almost no places left where you can listen and compare before you buy
I'm being realistic. The OP started this thread with his brain-fart post that he can do what JBL did, but where is he?Don't be so negative!
But are you using Eminence drivers as the OP suggested?I'm trying to clone some L96's! I got the drivers and the crossover now I got to build the cabinets