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Why music is getting worse. It's only 12 minutes, it's worth the time.

Late Boomer said:
Not sure where this has come from.
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1) because for me, there is a touch of magic in physical media for home listening
2) because for me, there is something about hearing 'b - side' tunes from the artist
3) because for me, there is something about album cover art and liner notes and musician credits, without scrolling and swiping and zooming on a digital display

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Chad Michael said:
Agreed... (warning: former bass player content)

Two modern songs that make me appreciate modern music:
- Lizzo 'About Damn Time'
- Dua Lipa 'Don't Start Now'
Both have an incredibly infectious bass line that essentially drives the whole song. Was it played with an electric bass or midi software? Dunno...

It works either way. Makes me want to pick up my bass and learn the line, yet also makes me want to see if the albums are available on vinyl lp...
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Infectious rhythm lines. :thumbsup:

 
GChief said:
I do the same if I find something new I like enough to own streaming, I go to the artists site and see if they offer vinyls.
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Irrational consumer behavior :) A large poster (to pin on a wall) and a digital download (for listening when the internet goes down or when the music is pulled off streaming services by its right holders) make more sense to me.

The only real use for physical media is for friends to flip through and admire when they are visiting.

As long as the renewed push for physical media, especially a degradable with every play non-fully copy-able media, does not reduce my access to streaming and downloads, I don't care. I don't listen to full albums unless they represent a complete tapestry, like The Wall. I re-arrange my playlists from time to time and build new ones, this would be impossible to do with prerecorded media. Back in the day I made mixtapes, there is no point in it now.

Here is my The Americans playlist, neatly arranged to fit a 90-minute cassette :)
 
Late Boomer said:
Irrational consumer behavior :) A large poster (to pin on a wall) and a digital download (for listening when the internet goes down or when the music is pulled off streaming services by its right holders) make more sense to me.

The only real use for physical media is for friends to flip through and admire when they are visiting.

As long as the renewed push for physical media, especially a degradable with every play non-fully copy-able media, does not reduce my access to streaming and downloads, I don't care. I don't listen to full albums unless they represent a complete tapestry, like The Wall. I re-arrange my playlists from time to time and build new ones, this would be impossible to do with prerecorded media. Back in the day I made mixtapes, there is no point in it now.

Here is my The Americans playlist, neatly arranged to fit a 90-minute cassette :)
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Its a you do you hobby :thumbsup:

Myself, I like to have all the packaging from the shipping of the vinyls to throw away :rockon:
 
drp1003 said:
The era of music we are in right now I believe is called TRAP. Trap music is the dominant genre of music right now. It became popular across the board in 2010. It's almost 2025. So that's 15 years. The only genre of music that lasted longer is, IMHO, heavy metal. One could argue that heavy metal started with Black Sabbath in 1970 and went all the way until Nirvana released Nevermind in the early '90s. Trap music might be with us for a long while still. I liken it to fast food. It's convenient, and it's homogenized. It's always nearby, it's kinda tasty but very addictive.

An artist's career can last about a decade. Madonna's music career lasted that long; it went right through the '80s until the Dick Tracy soundtrack. Then her time ended.

Taylor Swift's career is almost 20 years long. Her first album came out in 2006 - 18 years ago. I don't see her career ending any time soon and I don't know who will take her place. Olivia Rodrigo? Country music's arc has taken a similar path.
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I think of trap music as really a sub genre, not really so much a genre unto itself, the way that hip hop, country metal, etc is, though I'm willing to stand corrected as I'll admit that I'm not very keyed into contemporary pop culture. Whatever it may be, I'm a bit skeptical of the argument that it's the longest lasting. Hip hop music was created in the late 70s and though it's morphed into new forms, the basics of it still seem to be very much in play...
Chad Michael said:
1) because for me, there is a touch of magic in physical media for home listening
2) because for me, there is something about hearing 'b - side' tunes from the artist
3) because for me, there is something about album cover art and liner notes and musician credits, without scrolling and swiping and zooming on a digital display

No subscriptions, ads, or commercials
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I agree with you there. Sure, a streaming subscription might only cost $20 a month and would mean that records aren't needing to be taking up space. I don't see parting with my records though and $20 is probably about what I average spending on records (maybe a bit more) a month, and I'd much rather spend that $ adding to my collection . Once you have a large enough physical collection, it's as if you can "discover" things in it, so that it becomes a bit like streaming in that regard.
 
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RunOutGroove said:
I agree with you there. Sure, a streaming subscription might only cost $20 a month and would mean that records aren't needing to be taking up space. I don't see parting with my records though and $20 is probably about what I average spending on records (maybe a bit more) a month, and I'd much rather spend that $ adding to my collection . Once you have a large enough physical collection, it's as if you can "discover" things in it, so that it becomes a bit like streaming in that regard.
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You can stream and collect LPs. To me, it's not one or the other.
 
drp1003 said:
But the thing about pop music today, is that it all sounds exactly the same, and whatever era of music we are in now, it has been around for an agonizingly long time, at least 15 years now, and it does not seem to be going away anytime soon. It's the same tick-tick-tick-tick electronic beats, the same stupid lyrics, the same exact stupid Adele-inspired whiny-voice singing. The fake sounding synthetic drum beats. The same boring bass rhythms. I assume it takes about 15 minutes to produce this stuff, and in all honesty, I would not pay a dime to own any of it.
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I don't want to seem like I'm condemning all music that's been made in recent years, but I agree that the most popular, most heavily marketed stuff these days seems more formulaic and disposable seeming that I can ever remember. I can't say that I ever fully embraced the popular music of any era, but it always seemed like there were a few things that were incredibly popular that were of interest to me... until now.
 
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Mr Boochie said:
You can stream and collect LPs. To me, it's not one or the other.
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No, I get that, but I don't really want to budget for another subscription and with all the stuff on TV, the time I waste on forums like this and the time I spend playing my physical media collection, I don't think that I would get enough use out of it to make it worthwhile to me. When I want to sample something that I don't have, I can usually find it for free on YouTube or Spotify, but admittedly I'm not getting the best sound quality and I have to deal with commercials. For as rare as I do that though, I'm OK with it.

All that being said though, I think that streaming is kind of amazing and paying a not too steep monthly fee for unlimited music, in high res, commercial free is surely worth it (unless you're me!). If I was a younger person, without a large music collection and a collecting habit, I would definitely be inclined to go that route. Hell, I've tried to talk young folks out of collecting LPs... it just seems like a terrible investment!
 
RunOutGroove said:
No, I get that, but I don't really want to budget for another subscription and with all the stuff on TV, the time I waste on forums like this and the time I spend playing my physical media collection, I don't think that I would get enough use out of it to make it worthwhile to me. When I want to sample something that I don't have, I can usually find it for free on YouTube or Spotify, but admittedly I'm not getting the best sound quality and I have to deal with commercials. For as rare as I do that though, I'm OK with it.

All that being said though, I think that streaming is kind of amazing and paying a not too steep monthly fee for unlimited music, in high res, commercial free is surely worth it (unless you're me!). If I was a younger person, without a large music collection and a collecting habit, I would definitely be inclined to go that route. Hell, I've tried to talk young folks out of collecting LPs... it just seems like a terrible investment!
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Hey, it's all cool after the rinse cycle; whichever way do you listen to tunes. :thumbsup:

I don't think people telling others to justify how to collect or listen to music is cool. Right? ;)
 
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drp1003 said:
The era of music we are in right now I believe is called TRAP. Trap music is the dominant genre of music right now. It became popular across the board in 2010. It's almost 2025. So that's 15 years.
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drp1003 said:
Trap music might be with us for a long while still. I liken it to fast food. It's convenient, and it's homogenized. It's always nearby, it's kinda tasty but very addictive.
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If that's what that crappy auto-tuned garbage is called, maybe that will help me avoid it more, but then again it probably won't since I continue to hear it at different times in various public spaces.:(

Late Boomer said:
Irrational consumer behavior
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Only to some. Others enjoy the record collecting experience.

drp1003 said:
Herbie Hancock's "Rockit" was on the charts
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While Herbie Hancock's jazz, "Rockit" was either disco or electro-pop, take your pick.
 
GChief said:
You would probably be like most of the rest of us, slowly listen to less and less physical media over time ;)
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I'm gonna be the last holdout! It was a bit like that for me with CDs. I didn't have any issue with them, but I was hesitant to go with another format as I already was pretty invested in LPs and cassettes, though CDs eventually replaced the cassettes. I was a late adopter too of the cell phone, having only a land line for years after most folks I know had cells. I listen to music less and less for background anyway, so I don't need something so convenient. More often that not I listen to the local NPR affiliate and only put on music when I can really focus on it...
 
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