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Yamaha C2x on ebay..

Charlie K
I think the CX-2 is still descent (never heard it so), it is from 1993 (like the CX-1) and it has the video inputs. It retailed for 800, - US$
 
C-2 goes with B-2,

C-2a goes with B-2, B-3, BX-1 or B-5 (aka M-2 outside Japan),

C-2x goes with B-2x,

B-2x looks like the image below and B-2x goes with very very rare,

CX-1000 is very different and 15kg lighter than CX-10000!
 

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axel I agree that the CX-10000 is a special thing, but the design developed fore the 10000 is the backbone and layout fore the CX-1000/CX-2000. The component selection and detailed design of the CX-10000 is out of this world. But as I write, the CX-1000 was the model in serial production for “normal” people that came out of the development of the CX-10000.

Or is my historical research totally crappy? Please correct me if I got it wrong, as you know I hunger fore the details in this Yamaha line.
 
Charlie K said:
Whudda friggin maroon,
I bought a CX-2 not a C2-X. I gotta get more sleep or sumfin.
Oh well, I'll pay better attention next time. How bad can it be, right?
Charlie K
(just a bit embarassed)
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Not a bad mistake to make! The CX-2 was one of the last 'audiophile' stereo preamps to come from Yamaha - lots of technology in it, and a very silent phono stage (noise specs are phenomenal).
 
axel said:
C-2 goes with B-2,

C-2a goes with B-2, B-3, BX-1 or B-5 (aka M-2 outside Japan),

C-2x goes with B-2x,

B-2x looks like the image below and B-2x goes with very very rare,

CX-1000 is very different and 15kg lighter than CX-10000!
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I guess I need a C-4 to go with my M-4? :)
 
Man am I ever keen on getting this big guy home!
Coupla weeks ago I sold one of my Kenwood Basic C2 preamps to a fellow traveler over at AA. I've always touted the C2 as a fine preamp with an exceptional and flexible phono section, and this fellow wanted a great phono section. That and a guy at AA (a really good guy I just can't get to come over to the light)(but he is registered) by the handle of Bold Eagle bought a C2 based in no small part by my recommendation. Anyway, I found the second C2 I have, and after treating it to the DeoxIT bath have had it in a system coupled with the big Soundcraftsmen PA5001 and JBL CF150. Whew! What a combo.
I mention this because I have been agonizing over where I would give the first test of the C-2x. I think I'll put it in the place of the C2, because I need MC capability to drive the Ortofon MC10 in the SL-1400Mk2.
Yeah, like having too much gear is a problem. But when you've only got room for five stereos, it can be vexing. This gear is all pretty dang good gear. I'll call them excellent sounding stuff--hell, I haven't collected merely average gear at least I think it is some good stuff.
Of course, I could do some wholesale moving of gear and put the C-2x in the M-80/P-530 system, and have a Yamaha system. I suspect the C-2x is taller than the C-1, and I would need to take down the whole rack so I could adjust the shelves. (damn. i let a cigarette die in the ashtray i've been so intent on listening to the Cranberries at volume and writing this missive).
My other thought is that the Luxman C-383 pre would go really well with the PA5001/MA5002A. Then I could put the C2 with the Denon POA-2200 down in the family room. That would leave me to put the C-2x with the M-80.
Truth is that I REALLY like the "natural sound" of the Yamahas. Some may think it is clinical, or even "thin" when it is actually very dadgummed accurate to source in, output out. If there is bass slam in the source, the Yamaha will put out bass slam. The P-530 also share that accurate distinction. No bass, no bass output. Bass in, damn it sounds stout.
So what do you guys think? I've got some fine gear here, and making a decision is tough. The easy thing would be to take the C2 out and put the C-2x in. The CF150 are better than merely a "rock" speaker, they do have TREMENDOUS bass and dynamics, but the 6-1/2 inch mid and tweet hold their own. I've got the C2/PA5001 driving them now. The P-530 are more 'clinical' and mate well with the M-80. Go with an all-Yamaha? Or mix-n-match as is my wont?
 
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Hey thanks for the words of encouragement guys. I was feeling kinda foolish but what the heck, between the M-40 and CX2 I'm only vested to the tune of $350. I suspect the combo will give most $350 integrateds a run for their money.
 
Plan to refurb a CX-1000 in the not-too-distant future. Replace the NJM5532 op-amps with something like the LM833N and recap with Black Gates in the signal circuits. Analog end, only. If I like the results, then will try the same thing with the CX-1.

I've found that there is a great synergy in an all Yamaha system. Needs good interconnects to get the best out of it.
 
Another interesting discussion

One thing I like about AK is the interesting chat about gear(few or no trolls).
Bully,if you've got the patience,try the C2x first where your gut tells you it would bloom.Then after a month and you've got a handle on how it sounds,swap it around and you might find a super synergistic combination amongst all the different systems you have. :naughty:
The C2x comes standard with the best components of the time(just flip it over open it up and look at all the designer components :yes: ).This wasn't the bean-counters telling the designers just what they could put in.Someone at Yamaha had a point to prove.Whether they proved it or not only your ears can decide,they sure didn't pull any punches!
I'd like to ask trmandak:what do you think of your PX-3?I think these Yammie turntables are amazing. :yes:
 
I just got a good-looking but non-working PS-X600 turntable. Gonna call a shop tomorrow and see if they will even try to get it back to life.
 
I've been coming here for a little while.

Bully doesn't go on buying sprees very often. :yes:
Have there been any bank robberies in his vicinity lately? :scratch2: :pistols:
 
the-real-mandak said:
axel I agree that the CX-10000 is a special thing, but the design developed fore the 10000 is the backbone and layout fore the CX-1000/CX-2000.
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You're not wrong in that, developped at the same time, both units probably bear some circuit similarities and/or goals.
But if Sony's TA-ER1 monster preamp was indeed developped at the same time as the little E80ES preamp, it doesn't turn the latter into something close to the former - price-wise, looks-wise or sound-wise. Unfortunately for me :D
That's what I mean by "very different".
 
Charlie K said:
Hey thanks for the words of encouragement guys. I was feeling kinda foolish but what the heck, between the M-40 and CX2 I'm only vested to the tune of $350. I suspect the combo will give most $350 integrateds a run for their money.
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Charlie, that's my reasoning behind having a C2 and M4 combo - less than $300 into the pair and it's 120wpc into 8 and 140 wpc into 4 ohms - not many integrateds going to do that! You did REALLY well to get an M40 and CX-2 for $350!
 
Theophile I LIKE it, it has a nice feeling. Looks good, definitely has some statement in the design. Sound wise I have some problems with the grounding, in the beginning it picked up a lot of static’s. That I fixed with making a new grounding (don’t you just love heat pipes), but now it hum’s a little again. I expect to solve that with grounding the whole system on the same ground.

But I do believe that the needle is quite old, so the sound can be improved. That said, it sounds great. Super sound stage and great dynamics.

Now my biggest problem is the vinyl, I can hear how old and used some of them are :tears:

It came with the Yamaha MC-5, what is your experience on that subjet?
 
Here is a CX-1 on eBay going for a decent price at the moment. I do wish it had the dual phono inputs (for my K-b & M97xE) and the dual outputs, both of which the C-85 has. None-the-less, is still a very nice and highly flexible preamp with a good remote.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5863823491&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1

the-real-mandak - Do you wash your vinyl? Nothing like a good scrub to make a LP sound better. But, as you say, some are simply beyond redemption.
 
Sorry to hijack this thread.

t r mandak,
My thoughts on the PX-3?It's a superb vastly underrated,overlooked gem. :yes: Operationally as convenient as CD.Sound quality,f#@*ing awesome!I bought mine sans cartridge and bought the Dynavector Karat Diamond to hear more of the PX-3 magic. :) I retired my Oracle Alexandria. :yes:
The PX-2 is even more solidly built and sounds better again by a decent margin.
I am by no means a Yamaha fan(hard to believe,but true),however I'm willing to believe the evidence of my own ears and they tell me that the equipment in my signature is as good sounding or better than most I've heard over 30 years.
Whatever Yamaha and other Japanese corporations were trying to prove to whoever at this stage of the late seventies/early eighties,they were willing to lose money in an attempt to make the point that they could present state of the art which was reliable,good-looking and reasonably priced for what it was. :scratch2:
I reckon that is why the British Hi-Fi media had such a inward looking,xenophobic attitude at that time.It was a case of ignore this gear or be swept aside.
 
theophile said:
I am by no means a Yamaha fan (hard to believe, but true).
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Interesting statement for someone who owns three pieces of their gear and speaks so highly of all three. Your ownership and reviews of your Yamaha gear speak pretty loudly.
theophile said:
I reckon that is why the British Hi-Fi media had such a inward looking, xenophobic attitude at that time.It was a case of ignore this gear or be swept aside.
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Not much has changed with this. Reading 'Stereophile' with its Limey editor and columnist/reviewer is sort of like reading a British hifi magazine. I often wonder if Linn/Naim/Musical Fidelity/Rogers(or its successor company) and the other British marques don't own part of the palce.

theophile & t-r-m - you might be able to offer some help to a fellow PX-3 owner, here: http://audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=60584
 
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