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Zilch's AK Design Collaborative - Econowave Speaker

Yes I did. I used a good birch plywood like cabinet makers use instead of MDF board. So I had to do a little extra bracing inside. Then I went the easy route on the finish and used a stone texture spray.


Way cool, Perfect design!

Got the woofer and guide up high, big ol'e port, looks just right! :thmbsp:
 
Thanks guys! As soon as I got them done I used them to play the music at my nephew's wedding. WOW! I used my Vintage STR7055 Sony receiver to power them. It's rated at 45w per channel into 8 ohms, and I only had the volume cranked 1/4 of the way up. Plenty loud. Very clean. :banana:
 
Thanks guys! As soon as I got them done I used them to play the music at my nephew's wedding. WOW! I used my Vintage STR7055 Sony receiver to power them. It's rated at 45w per channel into 8 ohms, and I only had the volume cranked 1/4 of the way up. Plenty loud. Very clean. :banana:

That is a fine set of DIY speakers :thmbsp: and what a great debut!

The textured stone look is cool. :tresbon:

"Stonehenge!" :D

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I thought you might like to check out my econowaves. I just got done with them, although I have a little tweaking to do. Thank you to all the guys who gave me good advice on these and from this thread. I used Selenium D210Ti drivers with JBL waveguides and Dayton Classic 10" woofs.

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Very Nice!:thmbsp::thmbsp::thmbsp:

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L100, while a nice candidate for the upgrade (and it definitely is an upgrade) is also worth fair money on the market. Personally, I'd sell those off and find a better candidate for less money.
Like L88 Nova with the Eamesesque grilles and do this:

http://audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1874890&#post1874890

They would be stunning!

Speaking of which:

I thought you might like to check out my econowaves. I just got done with them, although I have a little tweaking to do. Thank you to all the guys who gave me good advice on these and from this thread. I used Selenium D210Ti drivers with JBL waveguides and Dayton Classic 10" woofs.

Are those gorgeous, or what?!!

YO, Woofman, post those over in Celt's DIY thread and make us E'Wavers proud:

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=75479
 
Speaking of S99, there in the hizzouse!

Looks like either the P-Audio 416 or the 18sound XD-120 will fit right where the
old tweet was and still leave room for the old port!

Add about 10" to bottom of the cab, should get me about 3 cubic feet tuned to
roughly 33hz utilizing the old port tuning just the way it is. :banana:

Should make for a fairly easy upgrade and a nice speaker I think/hope!
 

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Like L88 Nova with the Eamesesque grilles and do this:

They would be stunning!

Speaking of which: Are those gorgeous, or what!!

YO, Woofman, post those over in Celt's DIY thread and make us E'Wavers proud:

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=75479

Very nice work Woofman. You are shaming me into fabrication mode. Are these the first cabinets you have built?

Ohhhh! So the S-99-e-wave cabinet has a hole in the bottom to match that in the top of the pedestal??? Makes the total encloded volume bigger, eh? :tresbon: Much to learn, there is.

Maybe I E-wave the L-50 with the 127H-1's on the shelf then build NEW boxes for a E-wave LE14 combo? Interior box dimensions of about 12" wide x 18" deep x 30" tall = 3-3/4 cf?
 
Speaking of S99, there in the hizzouse!

Looks like either the P-Audio 416 or the 18sound XD-120 will fit right where the
old tweet was and still leave room for the old port!

Add about 10" to bottom of the cab, should get me about 3 cubic feet tuned to
roughly 33hz utilizing the old port tuning just the way it is. :banana:

Should make for a fairly easy upgrade and a nice speaker I think/hope!

I'm afraid it won't be that easy. There is mirror imaging to be done, there.
 
Ohhhh! So the S-99-e-wave cabinet has a hole in the bottom to match that in the top of the pedestal??? Makes the total encloded volume bigger, eh?
Yup. :thmbsp:

There's also a 1/2" spacer between the top and bottom sections, recessed all around, to refine the look. If I were smart, I'd do the calcs and make that a slot-loaded port tuning them to ~30 Hz.... :yes:


I'm afraid it won't be that easy. There is mirror imaging to be done, there.
S99s came mirror-imaged, and I believe Kegger said he got a pair of those, Dave.... :guitar:
 
Ah, I was just going by the pics posted. I thought it was a pic of each, but it must be a pic of one with the two potential drivers.
 
Very nice work Woofman. You are shaming me into fabrication mode. Are these the first cabinets you have built?

Ohhhh! So the S-99-e-wave cabinet has a hole in the bottom to match that in the top of the pedestal??? Makes the total encloded volume bigger, eh? :tresbon: Much to learn, there is.

Maybe I E-wave the L-50 with the 127H-1's on the shelf then build NEW boxes for a E-wave LE14 combo? Interior box dimensions of about 12" wide x 18" deep x 30" tall = 3-3/4 cf?

Thank you. No, i've built many, many speakers in the past. It's been quite a while though. I felt pretty rusty getting back in it.
 
Yup. :thmbsp:

There's also a 1/2" spacer between the top and bottom sections, recessed all around, to refine the look. If I were smart, I'd do the calcs and make that a slot-loaded port tuning them to ~30 Hz.... :yes:
OK, I'm becoming a bit confused. For a two-way E-wave/LE14 combo, what box volume should I be seeking? I'm seeing conflicting opinions in various places. If I tune too low won't the LE14 roll off too far below the e-wave???:scratch2:
 
OK, I'm becoming a bit confused. For a two-way E-wave/LE14 combo, what box volume should I be seeking? I'm seeing conflicting opinions in various places. If I tune too low won't the LE14 roll off too far below the e-wave???:scratch2:


No, high frequency extension is unaffected by the box tuning.

IIRC, the LE14 has been used successfully in a variety of enclosures from about 2.5 to 4.5 cubic feet.
 
No, high frequency extension is unaffected by the box tuning.
Yes, seems it logical to me that the high freq driver is not affected by the box. I was more concerned that I might tune the box & woofer too low, thereby creating a gap (high bass or low midrange?) or depression below the effective range of the e-guide. Am I wrong in assuming that there is only a given amount of bandwith (x octaves) available for any given driver? If this were a three driver system I would assume that you could take the low freq driver to the basement knowing you would use a midrange driver to bridge the gap to the hi freq driver?:scratch2:


IIRC, the LE14 has been used successfully in a variety of enclosures from about 2.5 to 4.5 cubic feet.
Yes, I wasn't sure all of them involved the e-wave 2-way configuration. Would there be a case within the home hi-fi, e-wave, 2-way context where the 4.5 cf box would be less desirable than the 2.5 cf box? I'm trying to avoid the "a little is good so too much must be enough" syndrome:scratch2:
 
Yes, seems it logical to me that the high freq driver is not affected by the box. I was more concerned that I might tune the box & woofer too low, thereby creating a gap (high bass or low midrange?) or depression below the effective range of the e-guide. Am I wrong in assuming that there is only a given amount of bandwith (x octaves) available for any given driver? If this were a three driver system I would assume that you could take the low freq driver to the basement knowing you would use a midrange driver to bridge the gap to the hi freq driver?:scratch2:

Yes your thinking incorrectly, tuning the box lower or higher has no effect on the drivers ability to play
high frequencies, in otherwords no it will not effect the bandwidth of the driver except that it can play
lower in a larger box tuned lower.
 
I thought you might like to check out my econowaves. I just got done with them, although I have a little tweaking to do. Thank you to all the guys who gave me good advice on these and from this thread. I used Selenium D210Ti drivers with JBL waveguides and Dayton Classic 10" woofs.

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Super!
I love those.
And gray/black is cool!
 
Woofman- BIG thumbs up! Apart from loud, how are you liking the sound?

Rosso- Enclosures are dead-easy; particularly for and engineer. 12" woofer and first-time cab-build: 6 cubic foot box tuned to 28hz using 2 3" wide ports and 3/4" wood. Ports: 6" long, box- 24" wide x 37" tall x 15" deep, stuffing along the sides and back, a few braces and triple-thick baffle.
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=185752&page=7

I haven't had the time to sit down and do any critical listening yet, but I did use them to play dance music at my nephews wedding reception and I was quite pleased. Very smooth and detailed.......as good as I could tell with dance music cranked. But my initial impression is quite good.

By the way, I'm impressed with those beauties of yours. I'll bet they sound great.
 
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