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$11 Chinese AT3600L Thread Mk. II - Champagne sound on a Beer budget!

There is no risk of deletion, just a move to the Dollars and Sense forum as has been suggested by several members.
Regards,
Jim
 
That members would suggest this thread be moved to Dollars and Sense is disturbing. Sometimes you just have to mind your own business and not get involved if you are not going to contribute to a thread. I really can't see the harm in any of the conversation that's taken place here.
 
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How can you discuss a budget cart or stylus options without mentioning price or where to get them from? Why would this have to be moved to s different section if money is mentioned, makes no sense?
My 2c on the cart just checked the stock conical under a microscope and it is smooth and flawless unlike my Jico Shibata which look like coal full of bubbles and flaws. Probably why the stock at3600 sounds so good.
Chris
 
After listening to the recordings posted (thanx!), i still prefer the original conical 0.6mil.

It's so damn well balanced in my opinion. Hard to beat..!
Wonderful soundstage, dynamic performance, vivid and with full body. Has a tint of vintage to its sound.
What else do you need? :rockon:
 
1) The MAIN topic of this thread is that this is a great-sounding cartridge.

2) A secondary feature of what makes the cartridge so remarkable, is that it is so inexpensive.

3) In any discussion of a great-sounding cartridge, a part of the discussion will involve where or whether it can be purchased at a good price and whether all of the similarly described cartridges available are actually the one that is being discussed and listening-tested and otherwise lauded.

4) If the discussion of a premium cartridge reveals that it now might be found for $189, rather than the usual $250 or more, no wanna-be forum cops suggest that the thread should be moved to Dollars-and-Sense.
 
Thank you for the positive feedback on the thread, everyone.

I had contributed a few posts to the previous one, and was sad to see it go... I figured a new one would be a good idea, and the two hours it took to record, edit, and upload the audio samples and write the original post seems to be time well spent! :D

(Too bad I did it yesterday. My Rega motor upgrade kit arrived today - The recordings could have been even better. :p)
 
Why was the last thread scuttled anyway? As a subscriber who recently paid to join the board, it bothers me a ton that threads like that are gone, AND on a related note that one of my favorite posters Needlestein has been dumped from AK. He was one of the prime contributors who made this a DIY-friendly and budget-friendly place. Really bad mojo.

Other posters have also made the excellent point that almost every post includes price data on buys of posters, especially when they got a good (or bad) deal out there in the world.
 
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Why was the last thread scuttled anyway? As a subscriber who recently paid to join the board, it bothers me a ton that threads like that are gone, AND on a related note that one of my favorite posters Needlestein has been dumped from AK. He was one of the prime contributors who made this a DIY-friendly and budget-friendly place. Really bad mojo.

Other posters have also made the excellent point that almost every post includes price data on buys of posters, especially when they got a good (or bad) deal out there in the world.
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Why cant threads just be locked like they are on other forums if they get heated? Then at least the information provided on the thread stays. Seen on other forums the negative posts are removed and the thread stays either as it was and continues or is locked so it wont accept further posts but it can be read. Re Needletein, I dont know why he was banned, but I enjoyed his posts too. If he did something wrong maybe he was having a bad day maybe something in his life outside the forum had gone wrong and he had a bad moment or two on the forum. Maybe long time members like Needlestein should be given a temporary ban of a week or two time to reflect rather than an outright ban? Dont want to let this get off topic but felt I should respond at least as it is sad we lost the other thread and its info...
Chris
 
ehoove said:
There is no risk of deletion, just a move to the Dollars and Sense forum as has been suggested by several members.
Regards,
Jim
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To be fair there are a ton of posts here that start out like "Hey, I'm buying a turntable and need a cartridge, I want something for the MC phono stage I'm gonna use.."

And then invariably the next post will ask, "What's your budget?" -- Seems like lots of discussion on pricing turns up here.
 
The previous thread is gone because it was started by needlestein. All his content has been removed. Site management doesn’t allow discussion of mod decisions so that’s where I’m leaving this at.

Potentially moving this thread into D&S is a separate issue.
 
DavidTT said:
Why was the last thread scuttled anyway? As a subscriber who recently paid to join the board, it bothers me a ton that threads like that are gone, AND on a related note that one of my favorite posters Needlestein has been dumped from AK. He was one of the prime contributors who made this a DIY-friendly and budget-friendly place. Really bad mojo.

Other posters have also made the excellent point that almost every post includes price data on buys of posters, especially when they got a good (or bad) deal out there in the world.
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As a several year member, and long-time AK reader even before that, it bothers me, too. A vast amount of information was lost to the forum. For me personally, it easily amounts to more than 20% of the value of Audiokarma to me. It is one thing to determine that a member needs to be removed, but yet another thing to deal a dastardly blow to others who have participated in conversations with that person, not to mention others who relied on information in those hundreds of postings. This reflects very badly on the Audiokarma Forum, and is rather heartbreaking to me, and I believe also to several others, who have been devoted members for a long time and who find it totally unbelievable that so much valuable content could be deleted from these forums with apparently so little thought about the consequences to all participants, not just to one targeted for discipline.

I also hope that it is clear that I am bending over backwards to be as nice as I can possibly be about this situation.


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As a several year member, and long-time AK reader even before that, it bothers me, too. A vast amount of information was lost to the forum. For me personally, it easily amounts to more than 20% of the value of Audiokarma to me. It is one thing to determine that a member needs to be removed, but yet another thing to deal a dastardly blow to others who have participated in conversations with that person, not to mention others who relied on information in those hundreds of postings. This reflects very badly on the Audiokarma Forum, and is rather heartbreaking to me, and I believe also to several others, who have been devoted members for a long time and who find it totally unbelievable that so much valuable content could be deleted from these forums with apparently so little thought about the consequences to all participants, not just to one targeted for discipline.

I also hope that it is clear that I am bending over backwards to be as nice as I can possibly be about this situation.
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Dude, after what Celt said, please, just let it go. I didn't put the time and effort into starting this thread for it to become anything but a discussion about the cartridge in the OP. I'd really rather not see it end up suffering the same fate as the last one.
 
Jup, the waiting game is on. My 3600 is stuck in Swedish custom. Waiting for my customs fee to come through. Big bucks in motion. Feels good to save the Swedish public finances ;)
 
All the pricing info anyone could need is already in this thread and has not been deleted, so let's keep it on point and only about the pros and cons of this cartridge. Blame for lost threads etc. belongs to the previous member no longer with us due to his own doing, so please no more discussion on moderation which is against the rules. Have a problem? PM a moderator or administrator and stay within the rules agreed to when you joined AK.
Regards,
Jim
 
Thank you op for the creation of this thread.

I’ve still yet to try my 3600...
I’m hoping it’ll work on my table (Lab-500), since it is sensitive to cartridge/weight being designed for use of an integrated headshell/cartridge...
Off the top of my head I believe the stock integrated weighs ~12.1 grams.

I have a pretty light weight headshell ready for the 3600. I have weighed out the 3600 + headshell + hardware + wires and came to around 1-gram heavier than the integrated...
So hope hope hope the counterweight can adust for an additional 1-gram.

Just need the time to try it out... unfortunately free time seems to be about impossible to come by!

Ben
 
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