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A box arrived.

I was lucky enough to score a couple GZ37's for $80 each when I built my ST120. Still running the same rectifier five years later.

Does BobCo offer an octal version of the amp yet? I adapted mine to run a 6SN7 in the center spot with excellent results. The stock iron also provides plenty spare power to drive a trio of those AND a quad of KT120's

Oh - don't quote me, but I believe the "yellow sheet mod" works with the M125 as well. Real simple change that prevents reverse flow that can kill a rectifier with the addition of a couple inexpensive diodes. Also, the Weber WZ68 is bulletproof - I've got one of those as backup here.
His partner Roy sells octal boards for the ST70, ST120 and one or more Dynaco mono blocks along with the M-125 as well.
 
You'd think one of the tube companies would put out a gz37 especially if you are the only one selling them.
 
You'd think one of the tube companies would put out a gz37 especially if you are the only one selling them.
There does seem to be some demand for them. Enough?, I don't know. They seem to be popular for applications in some hifi amplifiers and even more for Guitar amps.
 
5 years and counting on your gz37 is really encouraging to hear.

I'm pushing it pretty hard too, running a quad of KT120s at 60mV and the 6SN7 driver ... B+ still checks out fine though, so the amp is happy. I'm also using a DIY bucker to drop the wall voltage from it's average of 123vac, so that probably helps.

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(And yes ... that IS an ST120 ... more or less.) ;-}
 
So, I have the iron mounted and I'm ready to start wiring one amp. I intend to terminate the 5v winding since it won't be used. How critical is the resistor value?
I was going with a 5K 1w resistor, but the closest I have is 4.2K, or 6.8K.
 
Some quick glances at the datasheet tell me a GZ37 wouldn't likely be reliable either. Those are rated the same as a 5AR4, 250ma steady, 750ma surge with cap input supply. Only difference is the 5AR4 at 500v is rated to 200ma, the GZ37 is good for 250. At full go, 4x KT88 at 460v, ultralinear, fixed bias per the datasheet would need 560 ma. Just sitting there doing nothing its 200ma + whatever the driver wants, probably about 5ma. Honestly this should have at least a pair of rectifiers to get reasonable life from them.

Or solid state diodes are good for an amp+ for peanuts and they won't die from being thrashed to death.
 
Some quick glances at the datasheet tell me a GZ37 wouldn't likely be reliable either. Those are rated the same as a 5AR4, 250ma steady, 750ma surge with cap input supply. Only difference is the 5AR4 at 500v is rated to 200ma, the GZ37 is good for 250. At full go, 4x KT88 at 460v, ultralinear, fixed bias per the datasheet would need 560 ma. Just sitting there doing nothing its 200ma + whatever the driver wants, probably about 5ma. Honestly this should have at least a pair of rectifiers to get reasonable life from them.

Or solid state diodes are good for an amp+ for peanuts and they won't die from being thrashed to death.
I am going to terminate the 5v winding since it isn't going to be used. I was going to use a 5K resistor. Looking through all my resistors the closest I have is 4.2K and 6.8K. How critical is the resistor value?
 
Some quick glances at the datasheet tell me a GZ37 wouldn't likely be reliable either. Those are rated the same as a 5AR4, 250ma steady, 750ma surge with cap input supply. Only difference is the 5AR4 at 500v is rated to 200ma, the GZ37 is good for 250. At full go, 4x KT88 at 460v, ultralinear, fixed bias per the datasheet would need 560 ma. Just sitting there doing nothing its 200ma + whatever the driver wants, probably about 5ma. Honestly this should have at least a pair of rectifiers to get reasonable life from them.

Or solid state diodes are good for an amp+ for peanuts and they won't die from being thrashed to death.

Skizo reports 5 years and still ticking in his 120, and the ones I have in my M125's are still going strong after 3 years. Whereas 5ar4 would always barf within a few weeks. Perhaps the design margin factor that was built in back in the day is far greater then current standards?
 
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I am going to terminate the 5v winding since it isn't going to be used.
Terminate it to what? Itself? If the 5V winding isn't being used, I'd opt to tie one end of it straight to ground and tape off and tuck away the other end. No current flows through it, and it doesn't "float" either since one end is grounded.
 
Terminate it to what? Itself? If the 5V winding isn't being used, I'd opt to tie one end of it straight to ground and tape off and tuck away the other end. No current flows through it, and it doesn't "float" either since one end is grounded.
Yes, to itself. Something about 120hz pulsed 500vdc into the winding?
Just looking to lower noise as much as possible. The 95db SNR stated on VTA's site I dought is realistic. That number was taken from one source and review.
 
Right. if one end is grounded, it will have no chance of introducing a floating static voltage between windings, i.e., it won't contribute noise to the rest of the windings.

95 dB might be a little unrealistic, but I bet you can fairly easily get 90 dB S/N ratio out of it.
 
Hi Paul,,,
I usually save PTs without 5v windings for SS rectifiers,,, but if I need to use one with SS, I just connect the 5V winding for the pilot light/LED...
I thought of that John, but I hate drilling stainless steel. Just widening the hole at the back for the power switch was fun.
 
Right. if one end is grounded, it will have no chance of introducing a floating static voltage between windings, i.e., it won't contribute noise to the rest of the windings.

95 dB might be a little unrealistic, but I bet you can fairly easily get 90 dB S/N ratio out of it.
Thanks Kward. I'll do that.
 
Pilot light? We don' need no steenking pilot lights!!

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No pilot lights, but if you're serious about one, maybe put one inside the chassis and let it bleed light thru the sockets, etc ... might be a neat effect? I know McIntosh is pretty proud of their lighting. As mentioned, don't need more light - in fact, the power switch I used has an annular neon ring built in that I bypassed ...

And ya, I wouldn't worry much about noise. The Latino amps tend to be dead quiet built to spec. Only potential noise issues I'm aware of is mechanical stuff due to loose components. I know the can cap can hum some if you don't twist the mounting tabs tight. Ditto for the iron - I tapped the holes a bit larger and used tapered plumbing washers to prevent that. That and a couple wraps with black tape on the screws provides complete isolation.
 
Pilot light? We don' need no steenking pilot lights!!

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No pilot lights, but if you're serious about one, maybe put one inside the chassis and let it bleed light thru the sockets, etc ... might be a neat effect? I know McIntosh is pretty proud of their lighting. As mentioned, don't need more light - in fact, the power switch I used has an annular neon ring built in that I bypassed ...

And ya, I wouldn't worry much about noise. The Latino amps tend to be dead quiet built to spec. Only potential noise issues I'm aware of is mechanical stuff due to loose components. I know the can cap can hum some if you don't twist the mounting tabs tight. Ditto for the iron - I tapped the holes a bit larger and used tapered plumbing washers to prevent that. That and a couple wraps with black tape on the screws provides complete isolation.
This kit came with rubber washers for the power transformer at leased.
 
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