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Can't get my sound right.

If you can have a look at the stylus, gently push on the cantilever towards the diamond end with a toothpick and see if the cantilever moves easily/with resistance/at all. I still think the suspension has gone hard on it and your cantilever isn't able to move as it should.

Also, a few pictures of the cartridge/stylus might help your cause here too, folks could see what is or isn't looking right.

I'll check that out tonight and grab some pictures.

I talked to the guy at Bluz Bros. who carry replacement stylus for the Sonus, he said it sounds like the cartridge itself may be going bad as well. He recommended the Azden YM-10VE cartridge. I can't seem to find any info on it.
 
I'v been following this thread out of curiosity as to how a functional table could go wrong after being in storage. How long was the table in storage? Hopefully the table was stored in a living area of the house, not the attic, basement, garage, barn etc.If as the OP stated the receiver and speakers sound fine with other sources it is unlikely the receiver phono section has degraded markedly. Back to the table, time to check all the connections. Can we assume that the dust cover was on the table and the tonearm secured and even better the stylus guard was in place. I'd be checking the headshell leads for tightness. Next the tonearm cable if left in place might of partially pulled out of the tonearm base. Another area to check is the plugs on the cable, with age the wires can become brittle if handled roughly. As someone else suggested double check that the cable is going into the phono section on the receiver, check the owners manual if in doubt. Don't run out and buy another cartridge till all these items have been checked.
 
I'v been following this thread out of curiosity as to how a functional table could go wrong after being in storage. How long was the table in storage? Hopefully the table was stored in a living area of the house, not the attic, basement, garage, barn etc.If as the OP stated the receiver and speakers sound fine with other sources it is unlikely the receiver phono section has degraded markedly. Back to the table, time to check all the connections. Can we assume that the dust cover was on the table and the tonearm secured and even better the stylus guard was in place. I'd be checking the headshell leads for tightness. Next the tonearm cable if left in place might of partially pulled out of the tonearm base. Another area to check is the plugs on the cable, with age the wires can become brittle if handled roughly. As someone else suggested double check that the cable is going into the phono section on the receiver, check the owners manual if in doubt. Don't run out and buy another cartridge till all these items have been checked.

It was in the house and hooked up, I just had not had any speakers to use with it for a few years (lets say since 2008). dust cover on the table, but no stylus guard. The head shell is not removable on the G-707, but I will verify that all the leads to the cartridge are secure. I am not sure I am familiar with hoe the RCA cables attach to the phone arm, do they run up through the base of the table and into the body of the arm? I am sure I can figure it out.

Is it advisable to use dielectric grease on these connections? Sorry if that's a dumb question, I mainly do cars.
 
Isn't it great to have something to look forward to working on related to your HiFi system when you get home? I remember those days well. Of course, I'm retired now so I am always home :D

Doug
 
Do I check this by making sure it's all the way inserted? I'm honestly not sure how it comes off or goes on.
Is this your cart? Just make sure there's no gap between the plastic stylus assembly (white plastic) and the cartridge body (brass metal). Grasp the white plastic with your thumb and forefinger, and push the assembly back and up into the cartridge body, while supporting the body with your other hand.
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Is this your cart? Just make sure there's no gap between the plastic stylus assembly (white plastic) and the cartridge body (brass metal). Grasp the white plastic with your thumb and forefinger, and push the assembly back and up into the cartridge body, while supporting the body with your other hand.

Pretty much, mine is different colors, but the same thing.

Maybe I will try the unplug it and plug it back in technique with the stylus.
 
Pretty much, mine is different colors, but the same thing.

Maybe I will try the unplug it and plug it back in technique with the stylus.
Gently pull forward and down, take some photos for us, and gently insert it back in. Don't force anything. Also check before you pull. If it's not seated, that could explain all of this.
 
I talked to the guy at Bluz Bros. who carry replacement stylus for the Sonus, he said it sounds like the cartridge itself may be going bad as well. He recommended the Azden YM-10VE cartridge.
Other than a connector pin falling out or a channel going dead, I don't see how a cartridge goes bad. If he's not upselling you, there's no harm in trying a different cartridge.
 
I agree.
I have a Grado Signature 8 that "I thought was going bad" and called Grado in New York.
They told me they don't go bad and offered to have me send it back for an evaluation...free of charge.
The outcome..they told me I had "one he'll of a cartridge".
 
I agree.
I have a Grado Signature 8 that "I thought was going bad" and called Grado in New York.
They told me they don't go bad and offered to have me send it back for an evaluation...free of charge.
The outcome..they told me I had "one he'll of a cartridge".
Why did you think it was going bad? And what did their testing indicate?
 
You know: this is an excellent, excellent point. We often go too far afield way too fast and sprint past the obvious. Kudos to @Angry Possum for not putting the cart before the horse.

Thanks Needlestein, The cart before the horse is a good metaphor. Lol. That situation had happened to me. Re Trying out different methods of cleaning vinyl, and without drying them good, and then playing them crapped out my stylus. So it worked for me, cleaning the stylus very delicately. Bringing my TT back to life again......Ahhhh the delicate and beautiful sound of Vinyl to my ears once again.
 
I tried some things last night.

I checked the tone arm cable connection. The connectors good. I cleaned up the RCA ends on the cable. The cable is in good shape, but it seems like some cheap thing you would get at Radio Shack for $5.

I cleaned the inputs on the Sansui. I used electrical contact cleaner and a Q-tip.

I plugged into Phono 2. It did not seem any different from phono 1, but I did notice there is a tiny cross talk between the two phono inputs.

I removed the stylus, took some pictures, cleaned it, put it back on. I also checked the movement of the stylus with a toothpick. The stylus seems to move fine, it has maybe a 2 or 3mm range of motion.

I hooked everything up to a different receiver.

I grounded the deck, arm was already grounded.

I played four different albums. While playing these, I also played the same song through my phone on the aux input, so I could switch back and fourth between them and have a reference for the sound of each song.

The first whole album, Acid Bath's "Paegan Terrorism Tactics" (new pressing, has been played maybe once), sounded like garbage. Highs were harsh, mids sounded like they were running through a distortion pedal and the drums and bass guitar were there but they were quiet and had not punch, attack or drive. They were very muffled compared to the streaming mp3 and there was so little definition in the drums, you couldn't make out the individual beats.

Next I played The Police. I think it is a greatest hits album (Dollar bin used album). "Roxanne" is the first song, and it sounded just the same as the previous album. The next song though, message in a bottle actually sounded fairly decent. The highs were less harsh, the mids were clear, and the low kick drum was there, but there was still nothing in the lower midrange or upper low end.

Next I played Sufjan Stevens "Common Feel The Illinois!" (New pressing clean and in great shape). It actually sounded pretty decent. Switching back and forth between sources, I could tell that the record had better highs and mids and was smoother overall with a greater range (obviously). But it still lacked that low end that I am getting from other sources. Overall the Music just didn't have much presence, punch or drive to it and didn't sound like it was all there. (Describing sound is hard!).

Lastly I played My Life With The Thrill Kill Cult's "Confessions of a Knife". Sounded the same as the previous album.

So I guess overall it actually sounds a little bit better, not quite as harsh or fatiguing, but still bad. I had a friend over as well and on all occasions he felt that the Mp3 sounded better without me telling him which source was which.
 
So I guess overall it actually sounds a little bit better, not quite as harsh or fatiguing, but still bad. I had a friend over as well and on all occasions he felt that the Mp3 sounded better without me telling him which source was which.

Because the subsequent albums started sounding better (and didn't seem to go back and forth between sounding decent and sounding bad) perhaps the suspension is loosening up a bit? Keep playing records!
 
Why did you think it was going bad?
I just wasn't as thrilled by vinyl as I used to be.
I replaced the needle with whatever was recommended back in 2003 and still wasn't in awe. Same turntable, same system if you are wondering. The only thing different was that I had taken a break from vinyl as had gotten used to CD's.
Perhaps I was looking for a different sound.
And what did their testing indicate?
What does "one hell of a cartridge" mean?
I don't know.
When I initially called Grado about the possibility of the body going bad, they asked me to send it back for evaluation.
I called them a week or two later and spoke to the same older gentleman who offered to evaluate it. He told me the cartridge checked out fine, sounded great and that cartridge bodies don't go bad. He then added "you have one hell of a cartridge there". The Signature 8 came with it's own frequency trace when it was new. They did not provide another when they returned it.
Thinking "this can't be", I purchased a Grado Prestige Gold and thought it was inferior to the sound of my Sig 8. Maybe that guy was right, bodies don't go bad.
What I ended up doing was purchasing a Reference Sonata1, which trumped all. The Sonata1 was a major upgrade from the Signature 8.
 
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