crazy vinyl clamp

[toma-t-amot]

I have used for a few weeks the 1 K $ topic clamp, but the, above Clearaudio clamp ( twister ) do I use now for over 20 years.
With a little ( cheap ) tweak IMHO the best solution I`ve found.

 

[kirk57]

I put this up for a good laugh . . . jeez guys can't take a joke

I see you are new around here, but this kind of joke is actually fairly common and often ends in threads getting locked.

In general, these threads are started by people who have no experience or genuine interest in the product, only seeing a price tag that is more than they would deem sensible for their budget. Phrases like "only idiots would spend $x on this item when this other item does exactly the same thing for 1/100th the price" are typical. Or the laughable idea that these purchases are made to impress anybody. Honestly, nobody cares about how much your record clamp costs.

Anyway, it gets old. People buy what they want to buy, for whatever reason they want to buy it.

 

[dzkfraser]

pfft, is just money, not even gold backed, who cares?

 

[Mister Pig]

I enjoy music, its like a hobby to me. I guess the point I want to make is, I see the value of spending money on whatever equipment you can afford, but spending $1000 on a piece of metal and wood is crazy no matter who you are, especially since there are nearly identical products available for a fraction of the price.

Ah the people who really care about their vinyl experience own a Shun Mook record clamp. Made from mpingo, its costs about $3500 and is very difficult to get. You ain't serious till you got one of these.

Regards
Mister Pig

 

[Joe Roberts]

If you ever wonder why this site never has reps here from the industry it's threads like this.

Hey, I'm a rep from the industry!

And if the likes of Clearudio had reps on here, I might leave. I see AK as a highly non-commercial hobbyist site, which is why I support it.

 

[mkane]

^^ here here to that.

 

[Mitkraft]

BS is BS at any price. I'm not sure why its ok to dog on cheap stuff but somebody always gets defensive when something is dogged on for being stupidly priced for what its worth. Seems like a double standard to me.

 

[Pauln]

Since records were designed to be played without a clamp, the first question might be, "What does the clamp do, and by what principle does it do it?".

 

[pdm4606]

yeah,yeah... Here is mine. A whole $3 for a package of 6.
Works great.

 

[kirk57]

Works great.

Compared to what?

 

[El Pee]

It's all in the eye of the beholder... if somebody is able and willing to spend a lot of money on a clamp, a TT, or a car or a house... whatever.... then god bless 'em. Their money, their decision.

My question is: how many of these do they actually sell? I kind of imagine a bunch of guys sitting around an idle factory waiting for the phone to ring: "Crank up the furnaces boys, we sold one!"

 

[Luis.correia]

This makes me laugh. The page says "only 1000$" )

Bullet proof wood? In case someone shoots your turntable?

 

[Pauln]

It is not so much the high cost; lots of people buy expensive doo dads for their hobbyhorse.
But I think the $3500 clamp would be near the end of a series of efforts to improve sound.
How much improvement does one hear playing through dirty records? This record is filthy!

 

[Joe Roberts]

My question is: how many of these do they actually sell?

I'd take a guess of 100 per year. They won't sell any to those of us on this thread but I am sure people who buy those fancy tables, mostly in Asian markets, will take the TT, .clamp, some $10k cartridge, all as a package and flip out the plastic with a smile.

The thing that is hard to realize is that the more expensive it is the easier it is to sell, looking at the world market. There are a couple reasons, not least of which is that people who can buy $100k+ turntables do it without blinking, any day of the week.

For the last few years super expensive stuff or very cheap stuff are the main things that sell. Schlit or Goldmund and up. Folks in the middle are being squeezed. The fat cats at the top always have excess spending money...and if they want to spend $100k on a toy, they will not buy the cheapskate $50k model.

Also, importers want to handle the expensive items because there is more money in it, after taxes duty, retailers cut, etc. A $10k item is hardly worth it unless they can move a lot of them...but $10k is not the price category that is moving (see above).

All told, the $1000 clamp will be a lot easier to sell than a $500 clamp. Because some buyers blindly insist on the BEST clamp ($1000 German clamp should be the best, right?) and people shopping for bargains don't spend $500 on a clamp.

Weird, but true.

 

[Jadran]

It is not so much the high cost; lots of people buy expensive doo dads for their hobbyhorse.
But I think the $3500 clamp would be near the end of a series of efforts to improve sound.
How much improvement does one hear playing through dirty records? This record is filthy!

I think it's not just a clamp, it's an alien thing. Once it starts spinning it sucks all the dust particles. Something like that ball from ''Arrival'' that sucks everything

 

[4-2-7]

I'm not sure why its ok to dog on cheap stuff but somebody always gets defensive when something is dogged on for being stupidly priced for what its worth.

Other than members starting threads to bash Bose and Crossly, please do show a thread bashing gear other than new high end. BTW I go into the low level bashing threads and present the same argument as it's not right.

Since records were designed to be played without a clamp, the first question might be, "What does the clamp do, and by what principle does it do it?".

How does this comment hold any validity? LMAO

Thats like saying records were designed to play without amplification....



BTW record clamps where around over a 100 years ago to use on your Victrola

 

[grillebilly]

If someone wants to spend a grand on a record clamp, be happy for them. If someone wants to point out they think it's crazy, let them air it out or prove them wrong. No one should let either opinion get under their skin. If you don't approve, move along.

 

[Cadillac89]

All told, the $1000 clamp will be a lot easier to sell than a $500 clamp. Because some buyers blindly insist on the BEST clamp ($1000 German clamp should be the best, right?) and people shopping for bargains don't spend $500 on a clamp.

But what makes the $1000 clamp "better" than the $500 one? The price?

 

[Splatter Pak]

If you used that clamp too much, would you get "Record Cramp"?

 

[ripblade]

But what makes the $1000 clamp "better" than the $500 one? The price?

In absolute terms, it's not a question of which is better, but which 'sounds' better. What works well on one deck with one record may not work as well on another deck with another record. One of the great things about weights as opposed to clamps is that the weight can be changed 'on the fly', which makes finding the ideal one in any particular case relatively easy as the weights can simply be lifted off and changed without stopping the platter.

Ah the people who really care about their vinyl experience own a Shun Mook record clamp. Made from mpingo, its costs about $3500 and is very difficult to get. You ain't serious till you got one of these.

Comparing these two was my first thought as well. They're both priced well beyond my reach, nor have I heard either, but that's not my point. The Clearaudio is designed to couple tightly to the record and eliminate any resonances that collect at the label, whereas the Shun Mook is designed to 'tune' the sound by altering the resonant harmonics in the vinyl.

Very, very different approaches to the problem, I think...