CV D9 vs Infinity SM 152
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budgetaudio6
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welcome kaze, i hear orange county speaker repair has the proper surrounds for those. as might looneytunes who is a member on here. im sure others will chime in with suggestions.
vegabass25
Awesome AK member.
If ya like to rock loud! then those are perfect for ya! I suggest orange county speaker. They have the best made foam!
zenithfan1
Super Member
I just got my surrounds from The Speaker Exchange, there's a link in the ads at the bottom of the page on AK. They are very well made and you get new dust caps with the CV logo. Very nice and fit perfect. Get the 15", flat attach version. As for the D-9's, they are the best hard rock speaker I've heard. There are better speakers out there but none come close to these as far as metal and rock goes, IMHO.
vintagelubbr
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Go with the CV's if you like your music loud. No contest in hard hitting bass in my opinion. To some its just to much. But I like to feel it in my chest when the bass drum kicks, like at a say a concert...CV's are generally described as ""LOUD" and believe me they are....
I love them, for all types of music. This is coming from a guy who has Altec horns, just to let you know. I love using them during get together's and when the "fellas" are over. Otherwise, I keep the volume low when its just me.
I love them, for all types of music. This is coming from a guy who has Altec horns, just to let you know. I love using them during get together's and when the "fellas" are over. Otherwise, I keep the volume low when its just me.
vintagelubbr
Certified Clown
From my experience with CV speakers, especially models with the 15's, Vega's really like a nice chunk of power. I paired mine with my left over QSC RMX850's from my DJ setup, 200 wpc continous at 8ohms. It doesn't matter if I crank the amps, the CV's take the power with ease. I would recommend to find a good amp with at least 150+ wpc, they really do sound better when the power is available. I never tried to hook them up to anything short of 100w, so I can't really compare to anything less. I do know this though, they have a lot of sensitivity, so even just a little can go a long way. Just don't crank it for to long or you might cook the amp. That's what I didn't want to happen...I remember I had them hooked up to a cheap mid-90's sony amp rated at roughly 105wpc, and it would get super hot. Enough to where I could smell it...not good in my book :thumbsdn:
vintagelubbr
Certified Clown
Yes, there's a plenty. With that price range I would gun for something second hand like off of ebay (watch out though, there are horror stories) or something local. Sometimes you can run across some older DJ equipment like peavy, crown, etc. I like them a bit better just for the fact that I like to crank them out for hours at a time, and pro sound amps are made just for this purpose, huge fans, heatsinks. The plus side to older pro sound gear is most people are willing to part with them for a reasonably low price and that they can take a beating...I can check locally in my area if you like. Just let me know...
By the way, its not absolutely critical to have the top of the line stuff to push CV's. All you really need is mid line specs with good clean power....
By the way, its not absolutely critical to have the top of the line stuff to push CV's. All you really need is mid line specs with good clean power....
Yamahalic
Super Member
I still have a pair of SM-122s that I purchased new, and they are GREAT for rock (Rush, Led Zeppelin, and others). I agree with much of what I have read in this thread. In my case, I had narrowed my decision down to the Infinity SM series or the comparable CVs. For me, the SMs had better sounding highs and were less warm, and the CVs that I heard (can't remember the model) had deeper lows with a much warmer sound. I selected the SMs and added a powered sub.
Either of the models you mentioned move lots of air and go loud. They are both hyper-sensitive (the SM-152 sensitivity is 102db and the CV D-9s are 101db), so either will satisfy one's need to rock out.
Also, I just had the woofers refoamed by OC Speaker, and they did a great job!!!
Yamahalic
Super Member
OC Speaker has the kit for $30/pair. If you have them do it, then I think it will be around $75/ea for a D-9. In my case, I started to try it myself, and got into trouble strait away. My Infinity woofers have the inside edge of the foam glued to the underside of the cone (no way to get this done cleanly). Also, the supposed "correct" foam was really a standard 12" foam with the correct orientation (inside foam edge angled downward), and I found my woofers do not have standard 12" cones. So, OC Speaker had to cut the foam and overlap it a bit to make it fit right, also they did a perfect job somehow in gluing the foam to the cone (they must have removed the cone to do it, I am convinced). Mine cost me $39/ea. so not too bad.
Yamahalic
Super Member
The OC Speaker refoam kit I mentioned does not come with the dust cap in the DIY kit (dust cap kit sold separately). When they did my refoam for me, the dust cap was included. The Infinity logo was not on the dustcap
As for The Speakerex, I just reviewed their specs on all of their refoam kits, and as I suspected none will perfectly fit my original/slightly undersized Infinity 12" woofers correctly (I do not know if the 15" woofers are also slightly undersized). Keep in mind that the industry standard 12" foam can be made to fit onto on my woofers, but the foam roll would be too far outboard to fit as was originally intended (this was important to me). So, the inner edge of the roll would be about 5mm too large (~2.5mm away from the cone edge), and the outer foam roll edge would be too far outboard, so you could no longer use the factory gasket/finisher. So, without cutting and overlapping the foam, you could use the industry standard "angle" kit in my case, but to look good, you would have to glue the inside foam edge to the top of the cone to hide the gap, and toss the factory gasket/finisher (an industry standard gasket will also not fit). OC Speaker did a fine job keeping the look original as I wanted, they cut and overlap the foam so that the inner edge of the foam roll fits snug against the cone, and the outer foam roll edge fits within the original gasket/finisher (see photo attached).
As for Speakerex having a logo dust cap, I would be surprised if this was the case. The SM series may have been the only Infinity's to have the logo on the dust cap (as far as I can tell), so not only is there limited customer potential for such an item, but also they would probably be sued by Infinity for logo infringement (unless some other licensing arrangement exists, or they still have original caps from which to choose). I would confirm this in advance if inportant to you.
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well I don't need infinity anything refoamed.....being as I have D-9s.... speakerex has a CV 15 inch surround with logo dust cap...where as OC has no dust cap...I just want to know which has better foam...or if it's all pretty much even. The surrounds currently on my D-9's are all pinkish orange...instead of red. and they're full of holes...and all crumbly..
vintagelubbr
Certified Clown
That would work..:thmbsp:..These peavy amps pump good amounts of power, its not the cleanest compared to other amps, but its just right for your application. I would clean it up and make sure its nice and clean, before powering up though. Those ol' peavy's are pretty reliable if you take care of them. I have the same model, still in use by my younger brother as his monitor amp. Its been pumping for the last 14 yrs non stop at a lot of our gigs. Just remember like I had said before. The only reason I recommended a stronger amp, is because it take power to get really loud. Just don't blow the speakers or your hearing...otherwise you should be rockin!! 
Oh and a side note, be gentle with the gain increase on the peavy and be sensible about the bass. Otherwise, you'll hear a speaker pop...I've done this once or twice when I was still learning...
Oh and a side note, be gentle with the gain increase on the peavy and be sensible about the bass. Otherwise, you'll hear a speaker pop...I've done this once or twice when I was still learning...