Design Acoustics PS-10 Speakers
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Leamonjo
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All: First, heartfelt thanks for all the time and energy you have put into creating this resource for noobs like myself. With your help I just re-foamed a pair of PS-10As I inherited years ago, and have sat awaiting my attention in the basement until now. Will test them tomorrow, but this my first re-foaming job ever, and simply not possible without this list. One added question - any thoughts on speaker stands for these - yeah or nay? The previous links GD70 posted have expired, and I'm not eager to add complexity, but if there is a dramatic benefit in sounds versus simply sitting on a bookshelf, I'll go the extra mile. Thanks again to all of you who make this happen.
26" inch stands were recommended by Crutchfield back in the day. I followed that recommedation with no issues.
Gingahippy
Active Member
Just played mine for the first time after a refoam and a replaced tweeter. GD70 was right, great sound and well worth the time and effort.
teal'c
Nuclear Cardiac Parent
Mine hang from the ceiling with the woofers firing horizontal towards each other. I'm listening to them without the bases at the moment. Mid bass seems quieter but there's a bit more low end.
Or so it seems. I'll try putting them back on eventually to see if I still think that.
Or so it seems. I'll try putting them back on eventually to see if I still think that.
Hey all
Reviving an old thread!
I picked up a pair of these from the curb a few weeks ago. The mids look almost new, the tweeters look old but no rips...and the woofers have 0 foam left.
the speaker boxes themselves are in fantastic shape. I'm guessing other than the woofers, these things work fine.
Can anyone point me toward a refoam kit for these?
Level of difficulty? (Not high, yeah?)
Thanks very much
Reviving an old thread!
I picked up a pair of these from the curb a few weeks ago. The mids look almost new, the tweeters look old but no rips...and the woofers have 0 foam left.
the speaker boxes themselves are in fantastic shape. I'm guessing other than the woofers, these things work fine.
Can anyone point me toward a refoam kit for these?
Level of difficulty? (Not high, yeah?)
Thanks very much
Looneytune2001 on ebay. Using him for years.
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GD70
Lunatic Member
Very easy to refoam. Just take your time prepping the cones and baskets. Remove all glue and leftover foam on the baskets. They should be clean and smooth to accept the new surrounds. On the cones remove as much of the old foam and glue as possible. I use my fingers, cone edges between my thumb and first finger and rub off as much as possible. A little remaining original glue is fine. You want the cone surfaces as smooth as possible as well. Glue the surrounds to the cones first, when dry, then the basket edges, constantly checking that the VCs are centered. You can do this by feel, but it's safer to use a 30hz test tone to center the VCs while the glue sets up.
Re-reviving, as I just bought a pair of these this past weekend. I need to refoam the woofer, as well. This is a basic question but since I haven't done this before I'm not sure if I should be looking for 9" or 10" foam? I measured and I'm getting 9" but I'm not sure where one measures to in order to get an accurate dimension.
Thanks for any help! Can't wait to do the job and hook these up!
goodolpg
Just an old fart trying to help.
There is a diagram here that shows what measurements to make (a,b,c,d), works for other speakers, not just Cerwin Vega..
https://www.simplyspeakers.com/cerwin-vega-speaker-foam-edge-repair-kit-fsk-10ar.html
https://www.simplyspeakers.com/cerwin-vega-speaker-foam-edge-repair-kit-fsk-10ar.html
Hey thank you!
I can't find looneytune2001 (recommended supplier further up the thread) on eBay; do you have any suggestions for where to source quality replacement foam?
goodolpg
Just an old fart trying to help.
Looneytune2001 is highly regarded and knows his stuff.
I just Googled "looneytune2001 ebay" and the first hit is a link to his store.
You might try again, maybe you misspelled it?
I sent you a private message with a link in case you can't find it.
He's not the cheapest but you know who you're dealing with and his reputation and knowledge are first rate.
Other that that, there are places like Midwest Speaker, etc.
I just Googled "looneytune2001 ebay" and the first hit is a link to his store.
You might try again, maybe you misspelled it?
I sent you a private message with a link in case you can't find it.
He's not the cheapest but you know who you're dealing with and his reputation and knowledge are first rate.
Other that that, there are places like Midwest Speaker, etc.
thanks, you're a big help and I appreciate it.
Weird with looneytune2001, I wasn't able to find it. I will go through him, though, using the link you provided.
goodolpg
Just an old fart trying to help.
If possible, use the info in the other link to take measurements first.
If he doesn't have your surround by brand/model his data base will probably have a cross reference that he can use to supply what you need based on size/measurements.
One other thing you might need is the cone a flat or an angle surface mount. https://reconingspeakers.com/faq/refoaming-faqs/
If he doesn't have your surround by brand/model his data base will probably have a cross reference that he can use to supply what you need based on size/measurements.
One other thing you might need is the cone a flat or an angle surface mount. https://reconingspeakers.com/faq/refoaming-faqs/
Thanks. I work with my hands so I'm looking forward to digging into this. I also was able to locate a pair of name brand replacements from Midwest but I am waiting to hear back from looneytune2001. I'd prefer to buy from him based on y'all's high opinion of him.
goodolpg
Just an old fart trying to help.
Honestly, either would be fine. Rick might have a better data base as far as cross referencing.
Pretty sure Rick includes a 30Hz cd (or at least he used to) as part of a complete kit (surrounds/glue/shims or cd) for voice coil centering ( 30Hz tone available to download online as well if no longer part of the kit) while Midwest may supply shims for voice coil centering. Shims require removal of the dust cap, the test tone is easier and less invasive. You could just buy surrounds online and get the glue locally as well.
People that have experience often do it (centering voice coil) by feel but if this is your first refoam some additional help might not hurt.
Pretty sure Rick includes a 30Hz cd (or at least he used to) as part of a complete kit (surrounds/glue/shims or cd) for voice coil centering ( 30Hz tone available to download online as well if no longer part of the kit) while Midwest may supply shims for voice coil centering. Shims require removal of the dust cap, the test tone is easier and less invasive. You could just buy surrounds online and get the glue locally as well.
People that have experience often do it (centering voice coil) by feel but if this is your first refoam some additional help might not hurt.
GD70
Lunatic Member
Using shims is guaranteed to center the VC. When I cut the dust cap along the base where it's glued to the cone, I always leave a little attached and flip it up like a can lid. Once done, when regluing the dust cap, it will go right back to its original position. Be stingy with the glue bead, just enough to glue it down. Once the glue dries, the repair will be almost invisible. The test tone works well also if you don't want to get as involved as shimming. Especially with woofers with unusual dust cap like some JBLs with concave caps as an example.
I hesitate to cut the cap because this one is textured (not sure why that would matter) but I think that's the way I'll go, and use shims. I appreciate your advice and input.
Turns out Rick doesn't have these surrounds but I've found plenty of other places that do.
EDIT now I see that Midwest recommends not cutting this dust cap and says that the voice coil is easy to hand center due to it being situated in a "fairly large gap".
If anyone has a moment, what are my main concerns WRT centering the voice coil?
Also, as I clean the old foam I notice that it seems like there is foam on the underside of the cone. More will be revealed when the new surround kit arrives but do these surrounds fix to the underside of the cone?
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