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Fulton Musical Industries

You have been a very busy person, glad your getting all your speakers together...some of us are still collecting LOL

I have converted my P 12's that I bought from tom....they need lots of work to get them to play right, but thats another story, BTW I no longer associate with narcissistic/neg types anyways, I converted my P 12's to PJ 's without any cone tweeters, so far I am very happy, lots more musical information and lowered distoriton for sure!

If you would like to chat ...anytime give me an email

lawrenceharasim@gmail.com
 
In the coming month's, I plan on restoring my J's... Has anyone dared take on this insane task? Is it gonna cost $500 in capacitors? I plan on replacing everything as identical as possible, same amount of capacitors with same types in same locations.

I am going to start with the ESR panels by doing a simple recap (I might spring for the upgraded transformers way later down the road when I can afford $300 for such an item)

I have replacement 10"s on the ready, still trying to track down some 12"s if possible, Im sure mine are drooping. Ideally would get a new pair that hasn't been upside down their entire lives, but will do the droop repair 'fix' if needed
 
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I am the one that purchased those J’s. I used to own a pair P10’s. I sold them to Tom a number of years ago. I am looking to get another pair of Premieres? not labeled, see picture again.
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For anyone interested I know of a pair of Fulton Premiers? or Possibly E Modular?, see pictures in posts below, looking for a new home in the Seattle area. They have dynamic drivers, not electrostat panels on top. Will be auctioned at Pac NW Audio Society Meeting Dec 1. See www.audiosociety.org/meeting.html
 
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As there have been several inquiries, I will post the info here. These speakers were donated by the original owner living in Kirkland last week to the Pacific NW Audio Society and will be sold at auction during our December Social Meeting to raise funds for the club. They were purchased in a full system in the late 70's at a high end dealer in Seattle along with Audio Research components for $23,000. The auction meeting details at www.audiosociety.org/meeting.html December 1st 2018 1:30 pm (Saturday) - Annual Winter Social – Potluck, Raffle/Auction
Congregational Church
4545 Island Crest Way
Mercer Island, WA 98040
They will be setup at the auction in a listening room for people to see and hear. I took a few rather poor photos, and will post better pictures with them correctly assembled next week. The top covers are included, but not shown here. There is another woofer, not shown in the upper part of the bass cabinet. The fiberglass batting was temporarily removed for the photo.
 

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olsond3 said:
As there have been several inquiries, I will post the info here. These speakers were donated by the original owner living in Kirkland last week to the Pacific NW Audio Society and will be sold at auction during our December Social Meeting to raise funds for the club. They were purchased in a full system in the late 70's at a high end dealer in Seattle along with Audio Research components for $23,000. The auction meeting details at www.audiosociety.org/meeting.html December 1st 2018 1:30 pm (Saturday) - Annual Winter Social – Potluck, Raffle/Auction
Congregational Church
4545 Island Crest Way
Mercer Island, WA 98040
They will be setup at the auction in a listening room for people to see and hear. I took a few rather poor photos, and will post better pictures with them correctly assembled next week. The top covers are included, but not shown here. There is another woofer, not shown in the upper part of the bass cabinet. The fiberglass batting was temporarily removed for the photo.
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Thanks for the information. I think it is wonderful that this person has donated the Premieres to the Audiophile Society for their benefit.

Based on what I saw from the photos you provided these were considered as P4’s. Bob Fulton used a horn in the tweeter array in that revision (P4). I had the same model. Hopefully your audiophile society fundraiser is successful.
 
I have a pair of RARE FMI Model E with a pair of FMI80's I bought from original owner. Incredible sound, the Model E have better low end than my LaScala's and the FMI80's are so crisp I don't see the need for electrostat's on top. Pictures later. Rick
 
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RScott said:
I have a pair of RARE FMI Model E with a pair of FMI80's I bought from original owner. Incredible sound, the Model E have better low end than my LaScala's and the FMI80's are so crisp I don't see the need for electrostat's on top. Pictures later. Rick
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Congrats. The difference with and without the electrostatic tweeters is not so much a difference in tonal balance. The tweeters are crossed over gently around 7 KHz and only add a sense of “air” and space to the sound. As we audiophiles get older the ability to discern those differences in the top octave and beyond diminishes, unfortunately.
 
I completed servicing the crossovers on the Fulton Premiers for the new owner today. One of the speakers had the crossover capacitor in series with the FMI80 accidentally bypassed at the factory. So these will play properly for the first time in 40 years when we reassemble them. For anyone interested I documented the schematic and part changes in a google doc here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l5WMaCd6j4cyrTNBErWjv5QK0w4ZY5OqgtHtDNpsUX8/edit?usp=sharing The crossover has a few part values that are so small as to provide no audible difference, leading my friend to dub it a Homeopathic crossover. I think the clarity of the speaker may benefit from adding a coil in series with the 5 inch midrange, as the stock crossover allows this driver to run with unlimited high end, exciting all of it's breakup modes.
 
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Does anyone have any info or schematic on the crossover design in the FMI-80s? Reason I am asking is because I have a 2nd pair here that dont seem original. I would check my main pair, but they are setup in my J system and are the early version that doesnt have removable front covers


On my pair, there is an inline 20uf capacitor at the positive terminal of each tweeter. I am curious if this was the original design or not... and my main reasoning for questioning is because this pair has MT-25 tweeters instead of the originally used MT-225
 
JoshHendi said:
Does anyone have any info or schematic on the crossover design in the FMI-80s? Reason I am asking is because I have a 2nd pair here that dont seem original. I would check my main pair, but they are setup in my J system and are the early version that doesnt have removable front covers


On my pair, there is an inline 20uf capacitor at the positive terminal of each tweeter. I am curious if this was the original design or not... and my main reasoning for questioning is because this pair has MT-25 tweeters instead of the originally used MT-225
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The version of the 80 that is most common has two MT-225 tweeters and only one 6uF cap in series with both. The woofer runs wide-open.

The older version of the 80 had a single MT-25 on each side. I do not know the cap value for that tweeter.

I never saw an “80” with two MT-25s on each side. It’s entirely possible, as Fulton was always experimenting. Can you post pictures? I wonder if it is original.
 
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I will get pics up later, but no I can pretty much guarantee they (or at least the one I opened) isn't original because 3 of the 4 tweeters look the same with the 8ohm stamp, and one has a darker cone with no impedance marking.... Pics to come tomorrow
 
Tom Brennan said:
Oh my, those are very special. A pal of mine had those back in the 70s and I thought they were outstanding speakers; at the time the only direct radiators I thought compared to them were the big Frieds like the H and maybe the Dayton Wright stats.

The fella powered them with Dynaco 400 that had these big extra capacitors wired in off to the side.
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Dyna 416.
 
Does anyone happen to have a single (or pair, but single is fine) of the Peerless MT-225 tweeters Fulton used in the 80s and other models?

I snagged a pair of 80s that used MT-25s, and compared to my other original pair, these do not sound nearly the same. I have rounded up 3 of the 225's and am 1 short!
 
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