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Just made some query elsewhere...and apparently it's pretty decent.



Cool....it's just that I vaguely recall Bill keep talking about DSD128 over anything else.

Well heres the issue with all those higher rates. No one is producing music in those higher rates....at least not yet. So DAC's that can support DSD 512 are considered future proofed. (But keep in mind, something called MQA....Master Quality Authenticated is supposed to be catching on fire some time down the line and is suppose to be the stuff, better than DSD. But I really don't care, DSD is enough for me.)

I've seen DSD 128 down loads but nothing higher. So if you want to hear those higher rates, what you are going to have to do is rip your own music in those higher rates in Jriver and have a DAC that can support them....the Micro can. So that me as well as Billfort praising 128...its just that the higher rates aren't even been produced yet, and the higher the rate, the more space you lose.
 
I was more interested in trying my existing FLACs and perhaps MP3 converted into DSD though, as opposed to downloading DSD files.

That's not a good idea?
 
I was more interested in trying my existing FLACs and perhaps MP3 converted into DSD though, as opposed to downloading DSD files.

That's not a good idea?

Oh yeah...but all DACs aren't created equal....some are better than others doing on the fly...for most DACS its better to rip the CD's into DSD and send them to a DSD DAC untouched.
 
Ay, that's too much trouble. The reviews on this DAC appear pretty good.

Will be interesting to see how the DSD playback stacks up against the MF I use at work now.
 
Ay, that's too much trouble. The reviews on this DAC appear pretty good.

Will be interesting to see how the DSD playback stacks up against the MF I use at work now.

I rip all mine to 128....no trouble at all.....at least not for me. And thats how you get the best sound quality. And drive space isnt as expensive as it use to be.

Isnt this something, David...two vinyl guys talking DAC's. What on earth is this world coming to.
 
Straight to the hell :D :yes:

Well this setup is for my work. Unlikely I will bring CDs from home to work :D

There's only a Herbie Hancock CD lying around in my office.

Will see how that works then.
 
Straight to the hell :D :yes:

Well this setup is for my work. Unlikely I will bring CDs from home to work :D

There's only a Herbie Hancock CD lying around in my office.

Will see how that works then.


Hahahahahaha! you're so right! But yeah....Vinyl is still king. DSD 128 is only 95% of being vinyl like.
 
David, most of the DSD source material available is DSD64, there is a little DSD128 out there and almost no DSD256. Where the advantage of these higher rate formats comes in today for the most part, is how good these modern DACs can sound processing it.

Where there is a big buzz about these higher rates, is up-converting other formats to them and playing them on a DAC like the one you are buying. I convert all my material to DSD128 as it's the highest my system can support at this time. To move to DSD256 or DSD512, I'd need a more powerful player PC, upgraded streaming appliance (at least linux based ASIO drivers) and DAC - not something I'm ready for and DSD128 sound incredible so I'm good.

If your send the DAC DSD128 files and convert on-the-fly or pre-convert, there is no difference in the processing to the DAC - it's receiving the same file in the same way and does it's thing. The difference between on-the-fly and pre-conversion is that you store your files in their native format with on-the-fly and the player PC needs the stones to do the heavy-lifting of conversion at time of playback - much easier on the player computer to simply play a pre-converted file but then you had to do that conversion someplace so not sure if this really leaves you off the hook on PC balls. This is all about the player PC though - nothing to do with the DAC at time of playback.

Where the real advantage to on-the-fly comes in is software choice - and I feel the high-water mark for conversion software right now is HQPlayer which is particularly good at this - and is the main player when people talk of what DSD256 and DSD512 is capable of - with any source material. The thing is though, this ONLY works on-the-fly and requires some MAJOR computer horsepower - the true bleeding-edge of this pursuit.
 
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Byron/Billfort,

I've to ask a question of both of you, as mentioned elsewhere - I'm without a single cd in the house and am merely converting my standard mp3s that I've collected since 2008 over to said DSD 128 on the fly via JR, can either of you tell me how I'd be able to do these in FLAC from the original files themselves?, just curious.

And I'm loving this type of sound as I type this:

https://www.nativedsd.com/informati...k-preview?mc_cid=3793b761c6&mc_eid=a5e8d232be

Take care Mi Brothas.
 
IF I understand you correctly...

Tools >options > (Look to your left)

Encoding >Encoding for (top) >File conversion >Encoder >Flac >Encoder
 
IF I understand you correctly...

Tools >options > (Look to your left)

Encoding >Encoding for (top) >File conversion >Encoder >Flac >Encoder

Thanks as always Brougham, I'll give it a test drive tomorrow.

Good looking out as always.

 
David, most of the DSD source material available is DSD64, there is a little DSD128 out there and almost no DSD256. Where the advantage of these higher rate formats comes in today for the most part, is how good these modern DACs can sound processing it.

Where there is a big buzz about these higher rates, is up-converting other formats to them and playing them on a DAC like the one you are buying. I convert all my material to DSD128 as it's the highest my system can support at this time. To move to DSD256 or DSD512, I'd need a more powerful player PC, upgraded streaming appliance (at least linux based ASIO drivers) and DAC - not something I'm ready for and DSD128 sound incredible so I'm good.

If your send the DAC DSD128 files and convert on-the-fly or pre-convert, there is no difference in the processing to the DAC - it's receiving the same file in the same way and does it's thing. The difference between on-the-fly and pre-conversion is that you store your files in their native format with on-the-fly and the player PC needs the stones to do the heavy-lifting of conversion at time of playback - much easier on the player computer to simply play a pre-converted file but then you had to do that conversion someplace so not sure if this really leaves you off the hook on PC balls. This is all about the player PC though - nothing to do with the DAC at time of playback.

Where the real advantage to on-the-fly comes in is software choice - and I feel the high-water mark for conversion software right now is HQPlayer which is particularly good at this - and is the main player when people talk of what DSD256 and DSD512 is capable of - with any source material. The thing is though, this ONLY works on-the-fly and requires some MAJOR computer horsepower - the true bleeding-edge of this pursuit.

Thanks Bill. If I need MAJOR computer horse power probably my work computer wouldn't be able to handle it. Will try pre-converted files with Foodbar and see how I like it.
 
Just a thought.

What if I get a cheapish computer dedicated to music playing only? Wonder if this HQ Player will be able to operate without too much difficulty? And surely I can remote control the software from my smart phone?

I like that the HQ can convert files into DSD format on the fly. Less labour that way, right? I could play ripped files and DLd files at the same time?

Sent from my X10a using Tapatalk 2
 
HQPlayer eats memory and especially CPU - think fast quad-core - and that doesn't come cheap. Having said that though, I'm using an old AMD 3.2GHz quad-core and have a fair amount of choice for filters, modulators, etc., enough to keep me very happy at the DSD128 level. And remember, unless you are good with a clunky player interface (IMO) that works best as an 'album player' and remote controlling it with something like rdp or TeamViewer, look elsewhere - this stuff is all about the sound.

What do you have? Might be a good place to start (and even stay!) and see whether this is for you.
 
You mean as in computer? I have some old Toshiba laptop that looks as though it's about to die. But there's an Apple Mac Book, too.

Hmmm for me digital is also about convenience. So perhaps this project can wait until things get sorted in the technology world.
 
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