If you had to choose 1?

[61sprite]

Dual 1229 or a JVC QL-7?

 

[bobins08]

Your trading Mechanical complexity for electrical. If the JVC phase lock ICs or other logic fail then your looking for another table.

I think the JVC has the better arm.

 

[KentTeffeteller]

tnsilver, the Dual 1229 needs servicing and overhaul EVERY 5 YEARS! Recommended by Dual you do this. Has to be done with no shortcuts. Every idler drive record changer needs this, not just Duals. And that is what a 1229 is, a complex record changer.

 

[Poinzy]

Dual 1229 or a JVC QL-7?

Speaking as a Dual 1229 owner, the relative simplicity of the JVC deck recommends it over the Dual deck. Just make sure the JVC deck is in full working order.

 

[Balifly]

The JVC may be more convenient for the frequent cartridge swapper.

 

[61sprite]

The JVC may be more convenient for the frequent cartridge swapper. [/QUOTE

But less convenient for staying in a vertical or seated relaxed position when in the run-out wax

 

[lini]

61s: To me it would depend very much on the condition of each exemplar. Comparable condition provided, I'd most probably prefer the Dual, foremost because I like my tables to at least sport auto-lift & -stop, but also because it occupies less area...

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini

 

[Poinzy]

The JVC may be more convenient for the frequent cartridge swapper.

I don't find Dual's lever-operated clamp any more difficult to operate than a bayonet nut. Maybe I'm unusual.

 

[Pio1980]

The JVC.

 

[KentTeffeteller]

Hey Kent, how are you? Yup, Dual probably recommended what's best for... Dual of course! If it runs for 5 years consecutively, it would probably need service every 5 years. I've done mine last year. It was almost 30 years to the previous service I've done in college. The only thing wrong with it was that notorious steuerpimple which was replaced. It's actually not that complex once you do it for the second time. Anyway, that complexity is a marvellous decoration for German engineering and craftsmanship. A joy to anyone who can appreciate it. Superb!

Dual wanted their owners to have the best performance (to Dual standards) and best reliability. The Dual changer has a maintenance schedule (printed in the manuals) just like your automobile does. For a reason. I admire Duals. But Dual owners need to keep them serviced regularly for best reliability and the Performance Dual is famous for. My Duals when I ran them as main turntable, got every 3 year service intervals. As mine got heavy constant use. As I wanted to keep that German precision functioning exactly as precision (to specifications). 5 years quoted for maintenance is for average owners. You want simple and reliable and low maintenance, Dual is not that turntable. I appreciate a good Dual and have for my whole life. I appreciate that German precision build and engineering art.

 

[61sprite]

Dual wanted their owners to have the best performance (to Dual standards) and best reliability. The Dual changer has a maintenance schedule (printed in the manuals) just like your automobile does. For a reason. I admire Duals. But Dual owners need to keep them serviced regularly for best reliability and the Performance Dual is famous for. My Duals when I ran them as main turntable, got every 3 year service intervals. As mine got heavy constant use. As I wanted to keep that German precision functioning exactly as precision (to specifications). 5 years quoted for maintenance is for average owners. You want simple and reliable and low maintenance, Dual is not that turntable. I appreciate a good Dual and have for my whole life. I appreciate that German precision build and engineering art.

Here's one for ya

 

[KentTeffeteller]

That Perpetuum-Ebner changer is a German work of engineering and mechanical art. Very complex, very highly overengineered, and a superb performer. Generally worth love and care. A very admired work of German mechanical artwork.

 

[stereofisher]

like many turntables, the JVC has electronics. Working they are fine. I like them but when they go, good luck! I am married to Dual's as most around here know. Not sure they need maintenance every 5 years though?? Dual 1229 number one was done in 1999. Stupidly let it go in 2009. Never did have a problem with it. My second 1229 has 4 years with no issues. Just got a third 1229 on line. Have run it 20 plus hours now. My Dual 1010S has 5 years on it now. It's like the one I had in high school. It doesn't see much use as both 1229s live in the livingroom and a earlier 1219 lives in the bedroom.

I think 5 years is a little low. I like my Dual's. Though I would not turn a nice JVC. Here is something I ran across yesterday. I fixed up a mid eighties Marantz belt drive for my friend at the record store. He recently purchased 12000 records. In that stash was a Zombies LP in mono. It skipped on the title cut "She not there" took a chance and bartered some work for it. Put it on my 1219 last night and on the 1229 just now. Both using Shure M55s. Neither skipped! Those arms work well. That might help you decide which to get. You might get both and compare. Have fun!

Eric

 

[61sprite]

That Perpetuum-Ebner changer is a German work of engineering and mechanical art. Very complex, very highly overengineered, and a superb performer. Generally worth love and care. A very admired work of German mechanical artwork.

Yes I love the cue!

 

[61sprite]

I got em both I wonder what i could put on that rubber counter weight isolator to preseve it?

 

[savatage1973]

Meguiar's Vinyl and Rubber Conditioner #40--available at any NAPA auto parts store, or on Amazon. DO NOT EVER use Armor All on audio gear rubber components.