teal'c
Nuclear Cardiac Parent
That's like saying the cops can write you a ticket if they don't like you parking in the no parking zone. Why make extra work for them? Don't abuse the free labor.
That's like saying the cops can write you a ticket if they don't like you parking in the no parking zone. Why make extra work for them? Don't abuse the free labor.
Quadman2
Lunatic Member
Decent will have only meaning for you and only you.
I'd suggest immersing yourself for the next while and educate yourself as to how turntable works and what characteristics go into a "decent" one. Go to the "turntable" forum and do lots of reading there as to what people think of the different brands and types of TT's offered. For some, it may run into the thousands, but most stay in the hundreds of dollars. You may even get one for under a $100.
Modern TT's often can run more money, but there are some Technics on the market that don't sound too bad, and they aren't that expensive.
Then there is the cartridge which actually takes the music from the grooves, and that's another area that you will want to know as well.
The 78 is the number of revolutions that the record turns within a minute. The other numbers (45 & 33 1/3) indicate the different turns per minute as well. 78's are no longer sold.
Again, I repeat...don't spend a lot until you know what it is you are buying. Take your time and go through the different forums learning the terms and vocabulary of the audio world.
If you have questions...just ask. That's what AK is here for.
In no time, you will be helping others.
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the skipper
Professional Curmudgeon
https://www.library.yale.edu/cataloging/music/historyof78rpms.htm
As for what to call these black discs, I prefer "records", although some referred to them as "record albums"*. That's what they have been called since the beginning of time, at least until the hipsters noticed them.
If we refer to these as "vinyls". then CD's, DVD's and such should be referred to as "plastics"
*The "album" nomenclature is a throwback to the days of the 78 RPM record when large scale classical pieces would not fit on one disc so multi-disc sets were issued in boxes or book like folders which ere referred to as albums. See that link I provided for more on this.
As for what to call these black discs, I prefer "records", although some referred to them as "record albums"*. That's what they have been called since the beginning of time, at least until the hipsters noticed them.
If we refer to these as "vinyls". then CD's, DVD's and such should be referred to as "plastics"
*The "album" nomenclature is a throwback to the days of the 78 RPM record when large scale classical pieces would not fit on one disc so multi-disc sets were issued in boxes or book like folders which ere referred to as albums. See that link I provided for more on this.
woodj
Super Member
Back in the 50's/60's records with more than 1 song (excluding 7" 45's) were called albums or record albums.
Old RCA gear is noted for excellent quality and good tone. I expect it has better tone than the harsh and flat sounding 1970s solid state Japanese gear so popular on this site. I'd get a new needle for the unit and play vinyls on it. RCA label vinyls such as Elvis and those of the Chicago and Boston symphonies probably sound "right" on the unit.
As has been mentioned it might need some work. But it might work OK as is too. Give it a shot.
As has been mentioned it might need some work. But it might work OK as is too. Give it a shot.
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darkblue94
The Devil made me do it.
Nobody's blaming anyone for using the word incorrectly, we're just trying to stop folks from doing so.
Very true, It's all those of us using the correct term are seeking. Most offender seem to be from English speaking countries too!Nobody's blaming anyone for using the word incorrectly, we're just trying to stop folks from doing so.
Here is Australia It's rampant among the younger generations.
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the skipper
Professional Curmudgeon
Something to keep in mind: There are varying opinions on using a mono cartridge on stereo records as far as record wear is concerned.
IMNSHO, I would strongly consider swapping out that mono cartridge for a stereo one.
IMNSHO, I would strongly consider swapping out that mono cartridge for a stereo one.
darkblue94
The Devil made me do it.
Helping a new member to understand the proper nomenclature is NOT being an asshole nor is doing so a "total bullshit thread crap." Who appointed anyone to be in the New Member Personal Protection League?
Suggesting nicely that the correct term for something is blah blah blah is a hell of a lot different that saying "And stop calling them vinyls" If you cant see how that is not being welcoming to a new member then I dont know how to explain it. That was not helping, that comment was lecturing.
darkblue94
The Devil made me do it.
The guy did preface it with "please," making it a plea rather than a lecture.
You seem to have conveniently omitted the "please" in order to bolster your argument. Perhaps this discussion has "many sides, many sides."
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Who has the authority to say you can't call records vinyls? It's a logical progression from the modern practice of calling records in general vinyl---if records in general are vinyl then an individual record is a vinyl--what's so strange about that?
I think that to some extent what's going on is a group that considers itself hep and refined in taste resenting having to share the scene with a new and younger crowd and losing control of the scene. So the senior members of the scene try to control it by asserting authority and making rules. And some of this is probably just the "get off my lawn" thing.
Anyway it's slang and nobody controls slang. Dig?
I think that to some extent what's going on is a group that considers itself hep and refined in taste resenting having to share the scene with a new and younger crowd and losing control of the scene. So the senior members of the scene try to control it by asserting authority and making rules. And some of this is probably just the "get off my lawn" thing.
Anyway it's slang and nobody controls slang. Dig?
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maxhifi
Addicted Member
"Vinyl" always makes me think about the kind of auto upholstery which burns your legs in the summer when the car has been sitting in the sun. But really, does it matter? Vinyl, shellac, acetate, polystyrene.. how many of us really know enough about plastic to care exactly what material our records are made from?
The only time I find it truly ridiculous, is when I hear an older person trying to sound younger by using slang from another generation... if a guy at work who is 25 talks to me about vinyl, I won't correct him, but a middle age guy can sound pretty silly. Not because "vinyl" is wrong, but for the same reason my daughter hates if when I call her "dude", or copy the slang she uses with her friends to tease her.
I wonder if vinyl records will be carrying a California Proposition 66 warning soon, about how they contain materials known to cause cancer, due to trace amounts of lead.
The only time I find it truly ridiculous, is when I hear an older person trying to sound younger by using slang from another generation... if a guy at work who is 25 talks to me about vinyl, I won't correct him, but a middle age guy can sound pretty silly. Not because "vinyl" is wrong, but for the same reason my daughter hates if when I call her "dude", or copy the slang she uses with her friends to tease her.
I wonder if vinyl records will be carrying a California Proposition 66 warning soon, about how they contain materials known to cause cancer, due to trace amounts of lead.
woodj
Super Member
Siding - Vinyl is final.
Nightwisher
Farer In The Goldilocks Zone
Wow this got off topic. Let's redirect this debate here: http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/audio-karma-glossary.256404/
