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Philips CD-60 skipping

TheMarco

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My Philips CD-60 started skipping like crazy. It started with just every now and then but it's gotten to the point where it's unusable.

What are my options?
 
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There are several reasons. A dirty drive mechanism, dirty lens, failing lens, dried grease, some broken bit in the drive, etc.
 
There are several reasons. A dirty drive mechanism, dirty lens, failing lens, dried grease, some broken bit in the drive, etc.
I guess I'm surprised how it was fine for a few weeks after I got it but then suddenly started doing this.

I guess I'll try a cleaning first. That said the inside of this thing looks ultra clean. Not a speck of dust.
 
What can I clean here besides this lens?

Cleaning that unfortunately didn't help.

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I gave the cleaning another go, as thorough as I could and no skipping so far! Still knocking on wood / crossing fingers but it's looking good.
Listening to it in the office right now and all good for now. Including one CD that was very consistently ALWAYS skipping in the Philips.

Fingers crossed :)
 
There are previous AK threads that mention cleaning the two sides of the CD centre 'puck', which seem to pick up debris over the years that can cause the disc to spin slightly toppled, i.e. not perfectly planar. The laser would have to track this vertical movement (should be sinusoid), and that may be tricky. Cleaning seemed to be effective.
 
There are previous AK threads that mention cleaning the two sides of the CD centre 'puck', which seem to pick up debris over the years that can cause the disc to spin slightly toppled, i.e. not perfectly planar. The laser would have to track this vertical movement (should be sinusoid), and that may be tricky. Cleaning seemed to be effective.

Oh good to know! If it starts acting out again I'll open it back up and do that. It's been playing skip-free for over 2 hours now. Phew :)
 
Just today it started skipping again. I just cleaned the lens and the puck as suggested and the skipping is once again gone. For now.

This is one sensitive CD player I have to say!
 
If your player has any capacitors that look like these - check them. Or just replace them. For disc read or skipping, start with the ones on the board under the transport. I've found three swing arm players in the last two months with the same bad capacitor on the board under the transport causing disc read problems.

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This is why I tell people NOT to buy used Philips or Magnavox players, or players that use Philips swing arm mechanisms, because there are no replacement lasers available. Look for players that use a Sony KSS213 lasers.
https://elektrotanya.com/laser_cd_model_pickup_cross-reference.pdf/download.html

What a load of b***s**t. These swing arm laser pickups are the best ever made and they almost never fail, even not after 30 years. The mentioned Sony mechanisms tend to fail much more. In the very unlikely case that the laser would fail, just pick up the cheapest second hand player with the same mechanism and swap them. But like I said, these laser pickups failing is extremely rare. Almost always the problem is (as mentioned by others) a dirty lens, wear of the clamp or (mostly with these these players from 30 years ago) the elco's on the servoboard have gone bad (a well known problem with Philips/Magnavox/Marantz players from the eighties).
 
What a load of b***s**t. These swing arm laser pickups are the best ever made and they almost never fail, even not after 30 years. The mentioned Sony mechanisms tend to fail much more. In the very unlikely case that the laser would fail, just pick up the cheapest second hand player with the same mechanism and swap them. But like I said, these laser pickups failing is extremely rare. Almost always the problem is (as mentioned by others) a dirty lens, wear of the clamp or (mostly with these these players from 30 years ago) the elco's on the servoboard have gone bad (a well known problem with Philips/Magnavox/Marantz players from the eighties).
I am sorry but I worked for Fretter for 6 years as the audio repair tech for Northeastern Ohio, back in the early 1990's and I replaced MANY Philips CDM units that weren't that old even then. And the players always worked afterwards, so I think my years of experience differs with yours. And it remains a fact that the CDM units (laser, swing arm and disc motor) are no longer available and neither are the lasers. You are entitled to your opinion but not your own facts.
 
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I replaced MANY Philips CDM units that weren't that old even then

That fact must be tempered by the number of drives that were being produced. You might have seen many, but who knows what the failure rate was? Infant mortality is a 'thing'.

I have seen other claims that the Philips swing arms were very reliable, but I have no figures to back that up.

My Marantz CD-41 is still running, with its CDM 4/19. Anecdotal...
 
We are all fallible, but dr* audio has been spot on in his advice concerning CD maintenance and repair. If you don't agree with his advice/experience, no need for the BS crap.

I trust his opinion. Let TheMarco decide w/o getting nasty/personal. After all, it's only an old used CD player...
 
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