Pl-518 New Feet...
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AAA3330
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When I bought my PL-560, the seller didn't tell me that there were no feet. I would have rather had the original feet, but in a pinch I went with these rubber tips. I used drywall screws through the bottom of the tips. I'm sure the suspension is not as good as with the originals, but I've been pleased and doesn't look half bad IMHO.
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jleon92f
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I was looking for those because they are bigger, they only had white colored ones. Looks nice, enjoy your music..
Thanks,
John.
ferninando
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I use those or similar types of different sizes for all my needs in feet, some plastic , some rubber , depends on size and need. Abit of hotmelt glu and you're good to go. Works for me.
jleon92f
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budgetaudio6
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ive had to make some feet for my PL 540 a while back. I used some cylindrical foam, from a ....gee i cant remember. If the file upload works it should show the feet on the tt.
I think it matches well with the look of the tt. I sprayed it black then a slight coat of grey for an under tone effect..
I think it matches well with the look of the tt. I sprayed it black then a slight coat of grey for an under tone effect..
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boreas
"If it sounds good, it IS good." E.K.E.
I've got the original feet on my PL-560 but when I got it the rubber bladders that live inside the feet and house the suspension springs had all rotted to the point of separating from the plinth. I glued everything back together after a fashion and they work but I've never been really happy with the results.
John, your idea of the dowels and rubber feet gives me an idea for a mod to your basic design. As far as I can see, there's no suspension to speak of. The dowel is firmly attached to the plinth and the feet fit snugly over the dowel. Since the PL-518 has no internal suspension the whole turntable is fairly rigid, yes?
What about replacing the dowel with a length of PVC pipe over which the rubber feet fit closely but can still move freely in and out and then inserting a spring inside the PVC pipe? Next install the rubber feet over the assembled PVC and spring. The spring would have to be long enough not to bottom out from the weight of the table and of a strength to afford the right amount of suspension.
In my case, I'm sure the original Pioneer springs would do the job. All that would be necessary would be to determine the right height for the 4 pieces of PVC pipe to allow for initial compression when the turntable's resting on its feet plus enough room for suspension travel.
I think this would work pretty well but I'd love to have you all shoot holes in it before I make a terrible mistake.
John
John, your idea of the dowels and rubber feet gives me an idea for a mod to your basic design. As far as I can see, there's no suspension to speak of. The dowel is firmly attached to the plinth and the feet fit snugly over the dowel. Since the PL-518 has no internal suspension the whole turntable is fairly rigid, yes?
What about replacing the dowel with a length of PVC pipe over which the rubber feet fit closely but can still move freely in and out and then inserting a spring inside the PVC pipe? Next install the rubber feet over the assembled PVC and spring. The spring would have to be long enough not to bottom out from the weight of the table and of a strength to afford the right amount of suspension.
In my case, I'm sure the original Pioneer springs would do the job. All that would be necessary would be to determine the right height for the 4 pieces of PVC pipe to allow for initial compression when the turntable's resting on its feet plus enough room for suspension travel.
I think this would work pretty well but I'd love to have you all shoot holes in it before I make a terrible mistake.
John
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vegabass25
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My dad had an old PL-518 (he now has a perfect PL-516 the belt drive model) and the feet started to rot and turn all gooey. He put it up on a stack of felt pads and it works fine.
jleon92f
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I've got the original feet on my PL-560 but when I got it the rubber bladders that live inside the feet and house the suspension springs had all rotted to the point of separating from the plinth. I glued everything back together after a fashion and they work but I've never been really happy with the results.
John, your idea of the dowels and rubber feet gives me an idea for a mod to your basic design. As far as I can see, there's no suspension to speak of. The dowel is firmly attached to the plinth and the feet fit snugly over the dowel. Since the PL-518 has no internal suspension the whole turntable is fairly rigid, yes?
What about replacing the dowel with a length of PVC pipe over which the rubber feet fit closely but can still move freely in and out and then inserting a spring inside the PVC pipe? Next install the rubber feet over the assembled PVC and spring. The spring would have to be long enough not to bottom out from the weight of the table and of a strength to afford the right amount of suspension.
In my case, I'm sure the original Pioneer springs would do the job. All that would be necessary would be to determine the right height for the 4 pieces of PVC pipe to allow for initial compression when the turntable's resting on its feet plus enough room for suspension travel.
I think this would work pretty well but I'd love to have you all shoot holes in it before I make a terrible mistake.
John
The rubber is slightly bigger than the dowel and is not a tight fit. I put a piece of foam in the rubber boot to cushion the dowel,it actually moves up/down! It is now self leveling. There was nothing, not even springs when I got this, if I had the original springs your idea sounds as if it would work.
Your Idea is a good one too, I will remember that one.
Thanks,
John.
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boreas
"If it sounds good, it IS good." E.K.E.
The rubber is slightly bigger than the dowel and is not a tight fit. I put a piece of foam in the rubber boot to cushion the dowel,it actually moves up/down! It is now self leveling.
Your Idea sounds good.
Thanks,
John.
Ah, the foam's a good simple idea. I'm sure that the correct density foam works as well as anything else and it's a lot simpler than figuring spring heights and strengths, etc. Gives me another direction to consider.
John
boreas
"If it sounds good, it IS good." E.K.E.
It looks very good. Are the foam feet solidly cylindrical or are they tubular like pipe insulation?
John
Stanton T.60 to the rescue
I've been looking for a satisfactory fix for a footless 518 for more than a year. Several weeks ago a friend gave me a busted Stanton T.60 TT to play with or strip for parts. I noticed that the feet just might work for the 518...tried 'em and they do. All that is needed is to drill out original holes in the base with a 1/4" bit and screw in the T.60 feet. They probably don't provide the same degree of isolation as the original but are sure better than a rigid fix.
Old John
I've been looking for a satisfactory fix for a footless 518 for more than a year. Several weeks ago a friend gave me a busted Stanton T.60 TT to play with or strip for parts. I noticed that the feet just might work for the 518...tried 'em and they do. All that is needed is to drill out original holes in the base with a 1/4" bit and screw in the T.60 feet. They probably don't provide the same degree of isolation as the original but are sure better than a rigid fix.
Old John
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jleon92f
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Yup, keeps the gray matter working... your item should be there soon..
Enjoy.
And post your feelings about it.
John.
