Grainger49
Old Fart
Tedrick said:
Ok, you know . . .
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Please Post your Infinity speakers
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Ok, you know . . .
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Pacolam - Wow, what a great collection!
You've got a pair of the 1990 Modulus, which were B rated in Stereophile. I'm interested to know what you think of them compared to the other larger Infinities?
Oh, and welcome to AK!!
You've got a pair of the 1990 Modulus, which were B rated in Stereophile. I'm interested to know what you think of them compared to the other larger Infinities?
Oh, and welcome to AK!!
Grainger49
Old Fart
pacolam said:
Are you sure you don't run a shop?
Jukin Jay
Geek
Monitor II towers and newly acquired Kappa 7s
I've owned a pair of monitor II towers for well over 20 years.
Just picked up a pair of Kappa 7s off of the local Craigslist. Not that I need more speakers but couldn't walk away from $50 for the pair. They'll need refoaming and one of them has a stained top but otherwise immaculate.
I've owned a pair of monitor II towers for well over 20 years.
Just picked up a pair of Kappa 7s off of the local Craigslist. Not that I need more speakers but couldn't walk away from $50 for the pair. They'll need refoaming and one of them has a stained top but otherwise immaculate.
Negotiableterms said:
Hello Negotiableterms,
I'm a beginner of here, it was the first time I post my pictures here.
There are some difference of Modulus (90 ver) compare to the other Infinities, because of the "time tech." I mean the mid/woofer a little bit behind the emit.
It makes the emit perfect match to the little mid/woofer, two drivers are in the same time same phase to my ears, so the sound is very smooth.
Not enough bass because it designed to use with subwoofer. I try to use RS 4000's 8" woofer be a pair of sub woofers, with active crossover, the sound is much better than only a pair of little Modulus. But they're not perfectly match, I think the original Modulus sub woofer will mix better.
Long time ago about 199x, I owned a pair of reference 50, 3 ways, the tweeter is emit-r, is good in that price, compare to the Modulus, the Modulus's mid and high are better and smooth, human vocal is better also.
RS 4000, the woofer is good, the emit is excellence, but the midrange unit sounds not match each other, finally I found a reason why. The sound and the phase (+ -)of mid driver unit, is opposite to the emit and woofer, I try to change (- +) and reconnect it, is much better then before. But Modulus still better because of the difference quality.
I check the inside connection of RS 4000, the wire connection colour is right, nothing wrong but the midrange comes out opposite phase sound in right connection, I don't know why?
I found some strange things of some Infinity models too, the phase are not all correct in each driver units, even I check the inside connection, it seems right, the sound of all driver unit come out are not in the same phase together, so I need to check and reconnect the oppsite(wrong) one.
I have 3 pairs of Infiniies that the phase have no problem:
1) RS 2000
2) Modulus 90 version
3) Ref 50 (sold out already)
And I have 3 pairs of the other models that I owned, I need to do the reconnection for them.
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Charivari
Fighting Naïve Realism
Pacolam, welcome to AudioKarma! Like the others have hinted at, your collection makes us jealous while making you fit right in.
Interestingly, my Q2s are a very early pair (one off from those pictured in the brochure) and were connected opposite to the schematic, only the later variations were connected out of phase as I discovered in my mirror-imaging project.
I say, connect the drivers how they sound best, though preferably so everything is properly in phase. Manufacturers are not immune from messing up their wiring (Bozak was notorious for mislabeling the midranges in their 302As making for most units being connected out of phase), so if they sound better to you connected in opposition to the schematic, then so be it. Frankly, I believe the schematics and subsequent wiring to be a marketing gimmick -- makes them sound more exciting in the short term and makes for artificial imaging, such as with the Wilson WATT/Puppy 7 -- and have no quarrels with making the change.
- JP
Aha! So I'm not alone in this, though I never thought that I'm the only one who can hear incorrect phase between drivers. The midbass drivers on my Quantum 2s are supposed to be connected out of phase according to the crossover schematics, but the sound in this frequency region is very off compared to my other very good speakers (Tannoys, Magnepans, etc). When I connected the midbass driver to the correct phase both according to the wires and to observed cone motion, the sound is much improved. Yet, others were not at all hesitant to proclaim my change to be incorrect.pacolam said:
Interestingly, my Q2s are a very early pair (one off from those pictured in the brochure) and were connected opposite to the schematic, only the later variations were connected out of phase as I discovered in my mirror-imaging project.I say, connect the drivers how they sound best, though preferably so everything is properly in phase. Manufacturers are not immune from messing up their wiring (Bozak was notorious for mislabeling the midranges in their 302As making for most units being connected out of phase), so if they sound better to you connected in opposition to the schematic, then so be it. Frankly, I believe the schematics and subsequent wiring to be a marketing gimmick -- makes them sound more exciting in the short term and makes for artificial imaging, such as with the Wilson WATT/Puppy 7 -- and have no quarrels with making the change.
- JP
Charivari said:Pacolam, welcome to AudioKarma! Like the others have hinted at, your collection makes us jealous while making you fit right in.
Aha! So I'm not alone in this, though I never thought that I'm the only one who can hear incorrect phase between drivers. The midbass drivers on my Quantum 2s are supposed to be connected out of phase according to the crossover schematics, but the sound in this frequency region is very off compared to my other very good speakers (Tannoys, Magnepans, etc). When I connected the midbass driver to the correct phase both according to the wires and to observed cone motion, the sound is much improved. Yet, others were not at all hesitant to proclaim my change to be incorrect.
I say, connect the drivers how they sound best, though preferably so everything is properly in phase. Manufacturers are not immune from messing up their wiring (Bozak was notorious for mislabeling the midranges in their 302As making for most units being connected out of phase), so if they sound better to you connected in opposition to the schematic, then so be it. Frankly, I believe the schematics and subsequent wiring to be a marketing gimmick -- makes them sound more exciting in the short term and makes for artificial imaging, such as with the Wilson WATT/Puppy 7 -- and have no quarrels with making the change.
- JP
Agree!
I'm sure that we found the true reason.
totem said:
Hopefully, someone here can tell you just how low the RS 2.5s really go in the bass range. 2 ohms would not surprise me, so you need a very robust amp!
