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Receiver/turntable ground

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Why is it on these vintage receivers, the turntable has a seperate ground to the receiver but the receiver doesn't have a ground lug on the plug to the outlet?
 
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The ground wire puts the tone arm "shield" at the phono amp's ground, eliminating hum and noise.
 
Never had a TT that didn't hum when the ground wire wasn't connected. Except JVC, they grounded through the shield on the signal cables and always seemed to work fine.
 
Two different types of "ground".

The TT ground is what is known as a "signal ground" (helps to eliminate hum). :scratch2:

The other type (receiver to AC ground) is known as a "safety ground" to prevent possible electrocution if the AC line contacts the receiver chassis. :nono:

Mark T. :music:
 
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It used to concern me that my vintage equipment uses non-polarized non-grounded AC plugs. I worried that a short could develop inside the receiver or inside any component, which would put the metal chassis at 120 VAC. Some people deal with this by adding grounded power cords with the ground wires connected to the chassis, but often that introduces hum problems. The simple solution from a safety standpoint is to power the equipment from a GFCI protected circuit. This may not be as foolproof from a safety standpoint as a ground connection, but it is a large improvement compared to not using a GFCI.

By the way, the audio interconnects are usually not connected to the chassis. If you look closely you will see that the outer conductor of RCA sockets are insulated from the equipment chassis. Each chassis in your system is more or less independently floating.
 
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The TT ground is what is known as a "signal ground" (helps to eliminate hum). :scratch2:

The other type (receiver to AC ground) is known as a "safety ground" to prevent possible electrocution if the AC line contacts the receiver chassis. :nono:

Mark T. :music:

Thanks! All great information. So it sounds like it's really two different grounds accomplishing two different things. I was just assuming all the grounds should be connected just like in wiring a house.....

Thanks again guys!
 
Should the TT be grounded to the pre or the amp? or should they all be grounded together? My pre and amp both have a ground lug.
 
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