Even if the digital sampling rate is far, far higher than that of the redbook CD format?
Remastered Beatles Vinyl: Will you buy?
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Even if the digital sampling rate is far, far higher than that of the redbook CD format?
JonL
Lunatic Member
Why interpose a digital step to go from analog to analog? To do some additional digital processing? No thanks. I, for one, would like to just get new pressings, made just the same way as the originals. Nice and simple. Is that really too much to ask?
I doubt it will happen that way.
dobyblue
Blu-ray Guru
Analog>24/192>vinyl or analog>vinyl, either is perfectly fine by me.
I would imagine that two identical turntable set-ups with Revolver playing on both of them, one cut directly from analog and another directly from a digital 24/192 source that was created from the analog tapes...in a direct a/b comparison no-one would consistently pick out which one was which unless they have bat ears.
If it was 16/44.1 to vinyl that would make sense.
I would imagine that two identical turntable set-ups with Revolver playing on both of them, one cut directly from analog and another directly from a digital 24/192 source that was created from the analog tapes...in a direct a/b comparison no-one would consistently pick out which one was which unless they have bat ears.
If it was 16/44.1 to vinyl that would make sense.
Why interpose a digital step to go from analog to analog? To do some additional digital processing? No thanks. I, for one, would like to just get new pressings, made just the same way as the originals. Nice and simple. Is that really too much to ask?
I doubt it will happen that way.
That would be nice...but I've started working on finding Parlophone or Odeon pressings of the originals as they crop up in my area, and I have a friend in Berlin looking for an Odeon stereo MMT. I'm still nibbling away at a complete stereo/mono set of the Capitol releases - I have acceptable copies of all but three US releases. There are plenty of minty-fresh Beatles discs out there...it's not like a new batch of re-releases will be too game-changing in the Beatles vinyl supply department.
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analog fan
Active Member
Exactly! Hear, hear!:yes:
vinylreview
Active Member
The fact that there will be a compact disc mono boxset, combined with the fact that many of those buying vinyl releases will be audiophiles (who are even more likely to want mono) leads me to believe that mono vinyl will be released.
Old_Tech
Yer-isn't!
Mono?
There may be a few I can't imagine it though. Maybe the oldest of the albums like Meet the Beatles and the Second Album. Once Capitol started releasing in the stereo format the songs became even more amazing for example Beatles 65.
I cannot imagine Sgt.Pepper, Help, Revolver, The Beatles, or Abbey Road in Mono. meh...
There may be a few I can't imagine it though. Maybe the oldest of the albums like Meet the Beatles and the Second Album. Once Capitol started releasing in the stereo format the songs became even more amazing for example Beatles 65.
I cannot imagine Sgt.Pepper, Help, Revolver, The Beatles, or Abbey Road in Mono. meh...
dodog
Addicted Member
Have you ever actually heard Sgt. Pepper or The Beatles in Mono? Differences in the mixing aside (and the songs are different, not just 2>1 channel), I think the Mono is more powerful in those two. just my opinion.
And, to the previous poster, regarding the vinyl, keep in mind that the Mono CD-box is a limited edition,unlike it's stereo brother which will be available in both box and single-CD format. Even IF, they do Mono vinyl, I'd suspect that either Mono or Stereo vinyl will be a limited edition box or small run. If anyone thinks MoFi or DCC vinyl runs are small and expensive, I can't wait to see the prices for the Beatles vinyl!
goldwax
dozy ming-mong
I have a completely different take on that.
If there is so much audiophile demand, why is the mono CD boxed limited edition?
And won't the release of the fairly expensive mono CD box (which audiophiles will be compelled to by, since it's limited edition) kill a large part of the demand for mono Beatles on vinyl? After all, people have only so much money to spend on things these days--even when it comes to the Beatles.
Can you think of a mono vinyl reissue campaign--preceded by mono CDs--that has sold really well? If you can, then there's hope for mono vinyl for the Beatles. If not, I'd maintain that it's EXTREMELY doubtful that it'll ever come to fruition.
spideyjack
Addicted Member
I always thought Sgt Pepper was "guitar shy" till I heard it in MONO, now I think of it as a "guitar album"
dobyblue
Blu-ray Guru
This is a problem I don't think they'll have when it comes time to do the 50th Anniversary Blu-ray releases of the catalogue as each 50GB disc is more than capable of holding both the 24/192 stereo and mono versions of each album. In fact they could probably use single layer BD's and cut the cost down a bit.
I can't think of any campaign like the one you're describing, but then again we're talking about The Beatles and I can't think of any other band like the one we're discussing either.
If they make it, they'll sell.
dodog
Addicted Member
People seem to be confusing "audiophile" masses with the general public. The amount of serious listeners who actually want mono, let alone the smaller ones who want vinyl, PALE in comparison to the iTunes/quickfix/sub-40 (maybe even sub-30) crowd that they'll make their money off of. They'll make vinyl, they'll make mono vinyl, they'll eventually do remixes (these are just remasters coming out), hell, they'll even do Blu-Ray, but they'll keep what the "audiophiles" want in low amount/high cost/high demand and focus on the mass-market. If The Beatles/Apple/EMI/Capitol/whomever actually cared about their hardcore fans:
1) The crummy 1987 CDs would have never happened
2) It wouldn't have taken until 2009 (and beyond) to actually deliver proper remasters, vinyl and (potentially) remixes.
1) The crummy 1987 CDs would have never happened
2) It wouldn't have taken until 2009 (and beyond) to actually deliver proper remasters, vinyl and (potentially) remixes.
Sgt. Pepper sounds amazing in mono.
The Beatles was the last album released with a discreet mono mix, and only in the UK.
The band members were personally involved with the mono mixes, and spent quite a bit of time on them. The stereo mixes were often done on a short schedule by the studio producers.
mjalazard
Well-Known Member
As a caveat, I must say that I enjoy the "Let It Be...Naked" remix.
That mono "Abbey Road" is only a stereo folddown. "The Beatles" was the last album with a discrete mono mix.
JonL
Lunatic Member
I have it on vinyl and like it very much.
analog fan
Active Member
Good lord, you haven't heard SPLHCB or the White Album in mono? Remarkably different mixes.
Why would they use the digital remasters for vinyl only? The whole idea is to make money , and CDs are where the big bucks are (for now).
That's one I should find. I only have it on CD.
I think the point is that they can use the digital remasters for both if the sampling rate is high enough to simulate an analog recording.