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SACD recommendations

? Let me see if i am understanding yet. To recap:
-Redbook CD is basically the standard resolution bit rate of the original format CD for the mass market
- A “Hybrid CD” has DSD layer (SACD), and Redbook layers (standard CD bit rate ) l- therefore, it can be played on either or any CD player ?
-SACD has the “DSD level higher bit rate , but does not have the lower bit rate ( Redbook) standard bit rate layer, so therefore it can only be played on equipment capable of SACD
- am i close. ?thanks.
 
A "single layer' SACD only has DSD and no Redbook so won't play on a regular CD player.

Most SACDs are hybrid and can play Redbook on regular CD players.

Don't know about Amazon but you wouldn't download "SACDs," you might download DSD files, which can be bought on HDTracks and elsewhere.
 
GSR1200 said:
? Let me see if i am understanding yet. To recap:
-Redbook CD is basically the standard resolution bit rate of the original format CD for the mass market
- A “Hybrid CD” has DSD layer (SACD), and Redbook layers (standard CD bit rate ) l- therefore, it can be played on either or any CD player ?
-SACD has the “DSD level higher bit rate , but does not have the lower bit rate ( Redbook) standard bit rate layer, so therefore it can only be played on equipment capable of SACD
- am i close. ?thanks.
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You are correct, Sir!
 
GSR1200 said:
? Let me see if i am understanding yet. To recap:
-Redbook CD is basically the standard resolution bit rate of the original format CD for the mass market
- A “Hybrid CD” has DSD layer (SACD), and Redbook layers (standard CD bit rate ) l- therefore, it can be played on either or any CD player ?
-SACD has the “DSD level higher bit rate , but does not have the lower bit rate ( Redbook) standard bit rate layer, so therefore it can only be played on equipment capable of SACD
- am i close. ?thanks.
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Realize you need a SACD player to get the benefits of the SACD resolution (mostly true). The hybrid PCM tracks are theoretically no better than any CD so don’t buy a SACD just to play the redbook layer. However, I have found many hybrid SACDs are mixed really well in both SACD and PCM layers.
 
stoutblock said:
Realize you need a SACD player to get the benefits of the SACD resolution (mostly true). The hybrid PCM tracks are theoretically no better than any CD so don’t buy a SACD just to play the redbook layer. However, I have found many hybrid SACDs are mixed really well in both SACD and PCM layers.
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Yes sir, i do realize that part of the picture ! I actually have an old Lexicon RT-20 SACD capable player. Probably one of the better pieces if gear i own. And the one true SACD that i currently have, the “Getz/Gilberto” thing..... sounds absolutely fantastic on my system. Anything by Lyle Lovett sounds amazingly good as well.... even though they aren’t SACD, ... and that one Dave Gruisin CD which is a “digital master” series ( whatever that implies? ) it sounds very very very good as well ....... and while the Lexicon may pale in comparison to others ( i wouldnt know, I didn’t even know there was such a thing as SACD, until about 2 years ago) I took a 30 year vacation from mid-fi/hi-fi and the world changed just a bit in the interim...... slowly catching up. I might even invest in a streamer in a few months, I am a dinosaur, but unlike most i have the “capable of change” chip in my processor ..... LOL..
 
GSR1200 said:
Yes sir, i do realize that part of the picture ! I actually have an old Lexicon RT-20 SACD capable player. Probably one of the better pieces if gear i own. And the one true SACD that i currently have, the “Getz/Gilberto” thing..... sounds absolutely fantastic on my system. Anything by Lyle Lovett sounds amazingly good as well.... even though they aren’t SACD, ... and that one Dave Gruisin CD which is a “digital master” series ( whatever that implies? ) it sounds very very very good as well ....... and while the Lexicon may pale in comparison to others ( i wouldnt know, I didn’t even know there was such a thing as SACD, until about 2 years ago) I took a 30 year vacation from mid-fi/hi-fi and the world changed just a bit in the interim...... slowly catching up. I might even invest in a streamer in a few months, I am a dinosaur, but unlike most i have the “capable of change” chip in my processor ..... LOL..
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Hi resolution streaming will ruin your life...
 
I only just recently got back into music, and want to build up and update my library. If I get a quality DAC, would I be able to stream high definition music (like, say, from Amazon HD), run it through my sound system and make master recordings on my reel to reel deck?
 
Nader said:
I only just recently got back into music, and want to build up and update my library. If I get a quality DAC, would I be able to stream high definition music (like, say, from Amazon HD), run it through my sound system and make master recordings on my reel to reel deck?
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Yes - using a service with true high resolution sources you can get a streamer, run the output through a DAC and feed the high-res ANALOG output to a good R2R deck and record.
It will be 1 generation down of course, & the end quality depends on the quality of your deck and tape speed.
I don't tape it, but I've been real happy with Qobuz - a lot of music and a big chunk is in high res.
 
Is there any loss of audio quality if the streaming HD music is sent from computer or iPad to a DAC via bluetooth instead of cable?
 
KeninDC said:
Picked up the Mofi SACD (hybrid) of The Grateful Dead's Workingman's Dead. Fantastic sound. The original CD used a bit of NR (noise reduction), so the high end had no decay. Always bugged me. SACD sound is true to my original WB "greenie" label LP.

BTW, I use a Marantz SACD player.
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I thought that this what the tread was about; recommending good SACD recordings so I could buy them. Thanks, Ken.
 
2channel* said:
I thought that this what the tread was about; recommending good SACD recordings so I could buy them. Thanks, Ken.
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I'm using a Yamaha BD-A1060 universal player now for SACDs. Got only so much real estate on the shelves, so the Marantz is in the closet. The Yamaha has analog outs (for stereo) and does NOT convert to PCM, so I get the pure DSD experience.

I still have an old Pioneer Elite SACD player hooked up to my vintage Marantz system, so I'm a weirdo who still spins discs.
 
fauxhal...i must disagree with your statement that 96/25 is ~same as sacd. 96k is WAY short of the 2.8M utilised by sacs. granted, 96k sounds much better than 44.1k used in RBCD, but just short of DSD.

both, of cougrse, are firmly hi-rez.
 
I picked up these recordings of Bach's Cello Suites by Zuill Bailey. It was released by Octave Records which is PS Audio's label. It comes in two volumes, each volume has a hybrid SACD and a data disc that has the files (show in picture below). One confusing choice they made is having Volume 1 be suites 1, 3, and 5 while Volume 2 is suites 2, 4, 6... Outside of that, I have enjoyed how they sound, both the stereo and five channel mixes.
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Other one I have listened to recently is one my dad shared the last time I visited. There are a couple versions, but he has the one released by Sonus faber to show off their speakers. Belafonte at Carnegie Hall. Belafonte was known for calypso mostly, but he demonstrates great range in this album with a great rendition of "Bring Me a Little Water, Sylvie"

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