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Speaker designer Brian Cheney

I have a pair of the larger Supertower/R's (15"/12" active...15" passive). I bought them new around 10 years ago for a surround sound system...three 626's and a sub also.

The lower section of mine are what the new "large" VMPS subs were based on.

If you call Brian ask him about upgrading yours to the newer mega-woofers...your speakers are even older than mine.


Dave
 
I just emailed Brian and got and immediate response with a phone number to order passives. Very reasonable price $44.00 plus $13.00 shipping so I'll order tomorrow.
Flintstone: are those carver amazings in your avitar?
 
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markb

No, they are Apogee Duetta Signatures. Regarding the newer updated drivers I mentioned....they are "fairly" cheap also should you ever deside to upgrade those.


Here are a couple pic's of my Supertowers....(the big speakers in the background). I updated to the Mega-Woofers last year...I got lucky and they were drop-in's.

Dave
 

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Dave
Thanks for the heads up about the Mega- Woofer. There is some damage to one driver foam so I may upgrade.

I'm interested in the ribbon type speakers,maggies,infinitys, amazings, etc. Have never listened to any though. How do your Apogee's compare to the Supertowers.

Mark
 
Mark

Yes, I've listened to all those lines, some many times...not every model of course.


Of the ones you mention, Infinitys and Carvers are hybrid...ie, cone woofers. The new VMPS line are also hybrids...I've listened to all of those as well.... I have a VMPS dealer very near my home (Todays Audio).


The hybrid types generally play louder and offer conventional box-like bass slam...a good choice for those of us who like a little taste of both worlds, ie....planer-like mids/highs, but still that thump you in the chest bass that you can get from typical mono-pole box speakers. They (hybrids) also work well in smaller rooms, ie...you can get away with placing them as close as only 24" out if you have wife or other setup problems which dictate less than ideal setup.


The Maggies and Apogees being planer and di-pole, require 3-5 feet space behind to really open up and strut their stuff (It's a timing thing) because of the rear sound wave. Di-pole bass is "very" different sounding than mono-pole cone bass. It loads the room in a different manor than many are used to... even if the di-poles are fullrange, ie...20hz-20khz (the Apogee Scintillas come to mind here). Because the large panels do not "punch" the air in the way a cone does you don't get quite the slam factor.


My best friend had the original big Carvers for several years and I jamed with him thousands of times on those things....they will play at "extream" SPL's...bass is good but not great (30hz is about it). Mids and highs are good...not as good as Maggies or Apogees. The ribbon is to small to cover the amount of bass it must cover and to large to cover the complete HF range...a three-way would have been better IMO.


Maggies...great speakers for those that love music and are on a budget (MMG's are the best $550 dollar speakers going)... (Maggies are not a good rock speaker however). Bass is weak compared to the Carvers, they don't like to be played loud and were not designed to do so...this is the reason most Maggie owners are always looking for more power, ie...they are trying to get the speaker to do something it was not designed to do (play loud and thump bass). Note: the big Maggie 20 series may be the exception.


Infinity...If your talking about the big IRS series...I've only heard them years ago. Huge room, well away from the walls....I was impressed!


VMPS Hybrids...I'd buy a pair of these....except, I like my Apogees better for my tastes in bass quality, midrange quality, HF quality...the edge goes to the VMPS in SPL's. I rarely play music at above 100db peaks...one reason why I have switched from big solid state amps, to tubed monos. Plus....I've got the big old Supertowers to fall back on if I really want to party loud (I think you understand there!...with your new find).


Dave
 
Dave

Thanks for your description of the various speakers, very helpful in my quest for the better sound. The Tower 2's do very well at low volume. One of the things I love about these, and of course they rock the house too... in what I consider a large room, 24x30w/16' vault.

I'm not sure if my wife will accept a speaker 3 or more feet into the room but she loves the looks of the Tower 2's w/grills off, and was willing to accept the DQ-10's.. so there is hope that if I bring home a pair of Apogees or Infinitys they'll find a place appropriate.

In the mean time I'm very happy with the Tower 2's. New passive's on the way and also new mid-bass drivers. The replacements should make a huge improvment in what I consider a great sounding speaker. The Mega-Woofer is no longer available.

Mark
 
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Mark

I used to have DQ-10's years ago...power hungry buggers! I'll bet if you get a pair of these your wife will give you all the room you need for setup.


Good luck and enjoy your new speakers,

Dave
 

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