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Tesla Truck revealed and it may be a joke.

62caddy said:
A past customer of mine recently purchased a 2015 Nissan Leaf in mint condition with mileage in the low 30s. He had no desire for an EV but the price of $6,500 was too good to resist. (From the Nissan dealer no less). His electric bill has also increased $150 - $200 per month directly related to charging. Due to the age of the battery, the charging range had decreased to 85% of maximum and heater operation decreasing travel range considerably further in cold weather. He said frankly he'd be better off with a gasoline powered Versa - but of course would have been more money than the Leaf in the same condition and mileage.
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petes'picks said:
How anyone would consider swapping their brand new battery for a battery at a fueling station that maybe 8 years old and have a 32 mile range is beyond me. WOuld fueling stations be responsible for replacing dead batteries or would they just pass the $5K cost onto customers and would congress force every manufacturer to use same size battery? Not in our lifetime.
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This is why Hybrid would be the only alternate energy vehicle for me. No range limitation. No charging time limitation. No charger availability limitation.
 
Ohighway said:
An odd-looking truck, but no doubt styled to set itself apart from conventional trucks. And I suspect the styling will morph into something more rational as production begins (like getting rid of the weird roof peak)

That being said.....go Elon! Go Tesla !

I'm glad someone finally broke the barrier and that viable electric vehicles are on the rise!
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Exactly my feelings about it.
Just wait until a few of them are seen on the road then EVERYBODY will have to have one.
 
Swapping batteries was an idea, but no longer as new breakthroughs in battery technology are anticipated.
As an example my Volt can be charged in approximately 4.5 hours using a fast charger. Some of the 2019 Volts have a fast charger option and can be fully charged in 2.5 hours!

I might add that towing with an EV really makes sense due to regenerative braking. Where as a conventional vehicle might lose braking or bend valves due to downshifting trying to maintain control, an EV is recharging it's batteries while maintaining 100% braking if needed, for example in a panic stop. My Volt has almost 83K miles on it and the brakes are nearly new yet!
 
SoCal Sam said:
This is why Hybrid would be the only alternate energy vehicle for me. No range limitation. No charging time limitation. No charger availability limitation.
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The more oil and filter changes I do on our fleet of cars at home, the more anxious I am to go with an all electric vehicle. The only problem, I'm a realist,

I don't want to be limited on miles driven, and don't want to be tethered to an outlet patientely waiting for a car to get fully charged. I wanna' gas 'n go so to speak. No waiting around. I want to drive cross country with no long charging stops if I need to.

So for now we're trying something new (to us) In Aug. 2018 we bought our first Hybrid. A 2018 Honda Accord. For me it checked all the boxes. Conventional styling, (no weird for the sake of being weird styling to shout at everyone you've got a hybrid) Interior and trunk space exactly the same as the gasoline models. And a claimed ( and realized) overall MPG range solidly in the 44-49mpg range. (Occasionally reaching into the 50s) For us, for now, this is a win.

Eventually we'll go all electric. But for me there has to be more development and evolution before I'll go that route.
 
Ohighway said:
The more oil and filter changes I do on our fleet of cars at home, the more anxious I am to go with an all electric vehicle. The only problem, I'm a realist,

I don't want to be limited on miles driven, and don't want to be tethered to an outlet patientely waiting for a car to get fully charged. I wanna' gas 'n go so to speak. No waiting around. I want to drive cross country with no long charging stops if I need to.

So for now we're trying something new (to us) In Aug. 2018 we bought our first Hybrid. A 2018 Honda Accord. For me it checked all the boxes. Conventional styling, (no weird for the sake of being weird styling to shout at everyone you've got a hybrid) Interior and trunk space exactly the same as the gasoline models. And a claimed ( and realized) overall MPG range solidly in the 44-49mpg range. (Occasionally reaching into the 50s) For us, for now, this is a win.

Eventually we'll go all electric. But for me there has to be more development and evolution before I'll go that route.
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I look at the Chevy Volt and wonder why they never built something E- akin to the older Chevy II wagons.
Doesn't have to be a sport Ute - but a small wagon would still sell. Or if GM is afraid of wagons, they could sell a small E-SUV

Then again, Honda stopped importing the Accord wagons here, tho they sell well elsewhere.
And they have the Fit and the HRV on the same platform; The Civic and the CRV on the Same platform.
 
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This was on FB and I just had to post it . haha
 
With universal batteries, a battery swapping station that was built like a oil change place that held the batteries underground and changed the batteries out with robots
seems to be the best answer. 5 minutes to swap out, use the bathroom, buy some drinks/snacks and get on the way. All swaps are handled on your charge card.
 
onepixel said:
Ouch.
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That's the last generation Super Duty in the video; the new Super Duty has a stronger frame. In any event the proposed Tesla truck is simply incapable of doing what a 350 does, much less a what 350 dually does. It lacks the payload; pulling a 5th wheel you have to figure pin weight at at least 20% of the loaded weight of the trailer. Top end 5th wheels have GVWRs ranging from 18,000 to 24,000 pounds (VanLeighs, Luxes and DRVs for instance, New Horizons and Spacecraft go even higher and are often pulled by semi tractors) so you can see payload is the limiting factor. And you can't pull a 5th wheel with that body shape; the nose of the trailer has to clear the top of the bed. There's a sensible reason pickups have the shape they have--it's workwise.

I've run into several people who use rigs like the New Horizons shown below.

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Were 8o year old people or 16 year old kids using gas pumps 100 years ago ? Probably not .
 
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Tom Brennan said:
That's the last generation Super Duty in the video; the new Super Duty has a stronger frame. In any event the proposed Tesla truck is simply incapable of doing what a 350 does, much less a what 350 dually does. It lacks the payload; pulling a 5th wheel you have to figure pin weight at at least 20% of the loaded weight of the trailer. Top end 5th wheels have GVWRs ranging from 18,000 to 24,000 pounds (VanLeighs, Luxes and DRVs for instance, New Horizons and Spacecraft go even higher and are often pulled by semi tractors) so you can see payload is the limiting factor. And you can't pull a 5th wheel with that body shape; the nose of the trailer has to clear the top of the bed. There's a sensible reason pickups have the shape they have--it's workwise.

I've run into several people who use rigs like the New Horizons shown below.

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You have to remember Tesla is a young company and has only been around since 2003. The Cybertruck is their 1st truck. They are still growing.
 
Tom Brennan said:
That's the last generation Super Duty in the video; the new Super Duty has a stronger frame. In any event the proposed Tesla truck is simply incapable of doing what a 350 does, much less a what 350 dually does. It lacks the payload; pulling a 5th wheel you have to figure pin weight at at least 20% of the loaded weight of the trailer. Top end 5th wheels have GVWRs ranging from 18,000 to 24,000 pounds (VanLeighs, Luxes and DRVs for instance, New Horizons and Spacecraft go even higher and are often pulled by semi tractors) so you can see payload is the limiting factor. And you can't pull a 5th wheel with that body shape; the nose of the trailer has to clear the top of the bed. There's a sensible reason pickups have the shape they have--it's workwise.

I've run into several people who use rigs like the New Horizons shown below.

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I have a neighbor with a rig like that except no stretched frame with a little car behind the cab. Would it be legal to tow a car behind the trailer with 4 wheels down?
 
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