stanwebber
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all over ebay for $18.50 usa shipped. gold or black bodies. any interest?
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all over ebay for $18.50 usa shipped. gold or black bodies. any interest?
vwestlife
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stanwebber
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good eye on the stylus grip! hmm, 3 options available:
901-D3 Diamond 3 mil tip for 78 rpm records 1 - 3 grams
901-D7 Diamond 0.7 mil tip for 16,33,45 rpm records 1 - 3 grams
901-DE Diamond elliptical tip for 16,33,45 rpm records 1 - 3 grams
i'm sure this will come into my possession sooner or later if i just wait.
901-D3 Diamond 3 mil tip for 78 rpm records 1 - 3 grams
901-D7 Diamond 0.7 mil tip for 16,33,45 rpm records 1 - 3 grams
901-DE Diamond elliptical tip for 16,33,45 rpm records 1 - 3 grams
i'm sure this will come into my possession sooner or later if i just wait.
I got back into vinyl about 8 years ago and bought a table with one of those on it. I couldn't get it to track at all. I bought a Shure sc35c and after many tables here I am. That Shure dropped a channel after a year but I've got a made in US one now. I like Shure p-mounts because you can swap stylus from everything except except the n44/75 carts. I have n35s, n25c for rough records and n92e, n95ed, n97 as well as several with a brush. My best is an Shure n97g, nude .6 conical. I also have a few Audio Technica, one with a black diamond stylus.
Only noticed Hugo's 2018 mention of a Le Son/Excel PMC-3P p-mount a few weeks ago and decided it would be great to run an ES-70EX and/or an EX-70EX4 stylus in a p-mount table if I could ever get my hands on the cartridge. Luckily, a seller in Mexico was offering the very thing.
Channels are very closely matched at about 320mH per channel, right between the EX4 and EX bodies.
The Excel styli fit the Le Son's stylus insertion area, but the 'wings' of the ES-70 plastic grips will have to be trimmed to obtain full insertion. Will report back with results when I have access to my p-mount tables, and thanks to Hugo for clueing me in to this cartridge's existence.
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Hugo65
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Hi, Waulta!
These cartridges can sound really decent with a good stylus. In my experience, the original styli sound horrible, there must be something about them. The one you got was actually manufactured in the Duty-Free Zone of Manaus, the capital of the Amazonas state, in Brazil. Yes, it's in the middle of the forest.
That was where people with a decent amount of extra cash used to go to buy imported electronics, in the 1970's to the mid 80's. It was also the retailers' paradise. And when the stylus in our Shure M44's broke, we'd replace the cartridge with a Le Son, which was the most popular alternative back when the military ruled and import taxes hit the roof, so we're all very accostumed to the Le Son sound. And yes, you'll have to cut off the "wings" of the Excel stylus, especially if you intend to put it in one of the Technics close-and-play models.
Cheers!
bigaltx24
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Lately i've been running an ADC SER-? body with a NOS PSX-30 stylus. This is one sweet sounding P mount. Very nice with Jazz, Classical and some Classic Rock. To me it seems a tad too polite sounding for heavier Rock, but I have other catridges for that. It's right on the heels of my Shure DT35P with NOS N97LT Hypereliptical stylus which is the best P mount I've ever heard.
What a story! Then you probably own the Le Son (or Le-Son) version of the standard-mount Excel ES-70:
..or another collaboration between Excel and Le Son.
My Onkyo DN-25ST (a clone of the Excel S70X4) de-gripped itself so is ready to go into the PMC-3P.
I've found that nearly all my PSX/SER styli show an increase in bass after treatment with a rubber restorer. Not that there's no risk working with chemicals; merely something to consider.bigaltx24 said:
bigaltx24
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I put some mineral oil on it and let it sit for a couple of days before using it. That was about six weeks ago, I may try some Ballistol on it, it does a pretty good on rubber.
Hello. Here again in the forum.
To remind you, I have a Technics SL-10 turntable and three cartridges: Audio Technica AT112EP with ATN440Mla needle; GRADE Prestige Black3 and Technics EPS P30 with Jico ES needle.
In a previous intervention I commented that I was not convinced by the Jico needle and that the AT112 had better performance with the ATN440Mla needle.
After time has passed and increased the VTF to 1.5 grams, I have seen that the Technics EPS P30 with Jico provides greater detail, a better soundstage, and extended, clean treble than the other capsules I have named.
I am using an IFI ZEN PHONO pre with its balanced output.
I wonder if it would be worth spending on a Jico EPS-30 SAS/B or EPS-30 SAS/S needle ($282 and $349 respectively).
I think they're worth more than the Technics SL-10 itself, but if the performance is worth the price, it could make an effort.
Greetings to all.
To remind you, I have a Technics SL-10 turntable and three cartridges: Audio Technica AT112EP with ATN440Mla needle; GRADE Prestige Black3 and Technics EPS P30 with Jico ES needle.
In a previous intervention I commented that I was not convinced by the Jico needle and that the AT112 had better performance with the ATN440Mla needle.
After time has passed and increased the VTF to 1.5 grams, I have seen that the Technics EPS P30 with Jico provides greater detail, a better soundstage, and extended, clean treble than the other capsules I have named.
I am using an IFI ZEN PHONO pre with its balanced output.
I wonder if it would be worth spending on a Jico EPS-30 SAS/B or EPS-30 SAS/S needle ($282 and $349 respectively).
I think they're worth more than the Technics SL-10 itself, but if the performance is worth the price, it could make an effort.
Greetings to all.
Hugo65
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I have an EPC30 too (and 3 SL-10's) and it's very good. However, I also have 2 310MC, one of which is currently in use. One of the highlights of the 310MC is the light-weight boron tube cantilever. Some reviews for the EPC202 are very very positive, and I believe all these technics styi used to be the same, basically. Cart models varied according to the stylus they carried.
You can read those reviews here. They might encourage you.
https://www.jico-stylus.com/product/eps202-sas-b/comment-page-1/#comments
Hugo65
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Another comment: having to set VTF to 1.5g is really getting the combo close to the recommended 1.25g VTF, actually, because an aftermarket stylus almost never weighs the same as an original. Many of them weigh less. That's much more complicated when it comes to T4P cartridges, as, by standard, all of them are supposed to weight 6 grams, stylus + cartridge. That's why the VTF control on the Sl-10 is kind of "preset". So, "increasing to 1,5g" is actually "putting it as close as possible to 1.25g"
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https://www.jico-stylus.com/sas/
I have found this article.
I have convinced myself about the benefits of Jico SAS needles.
I have found this article.
I have convinced myself about the benefits of Jico SAS needles.
cmarti
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Great job by Jico!