The Smaller Advent Loudspeaker

[Zilch]

Incoming:

http://www.stereophile.com/historical/506advent/index.html

 

[tubed]

Nice dust caps. Baby Ewave or ?

 

[vinyldavid]

waiting with bated breath for this one, Zilch...

 

[marantzfan]

Here is MY challenge...Use the tools availble in 1972 and design a better sounding affordable bookshelf speaker...:yes:

 

[Sir.Byrd]

here is my challenge...use the tools availble in 1972 and design a better sounding affordable bookshelf speaker...:yes:

+ 1

 

[Zilch]

Nice dust caps. Baby Ewave or ?

We have an investigative process here, but they will accept the 6" square waveguides, which easily surpass the original high frequency design performance objectives, yes.

Here is MY challenge...Use the tools availble in 1972 and design a better sounding affordable bookshelf speaker... :yes:

Stereophile converted the selling price to $668/pair in 2006 dollars. I'm guessing more like $750 today, which translates to rather high-end on the scale of affordability. Considering the acquisition cost, there is a generous margin for update/upgrade, even at the original early 1970s $139.90/pair price point.

 

[vinyldavid]

Here is MY challenge...Use the tools availble in 1972 and design a better sounding affordable bookshelf speaker...:yes:

+2 :yes:

 

[marantzfan]

We have an investigative process here, but they will accept the 6" square waveguides, which easily surpass the original design performance objectives, yes.

Stereophile converted the selling price to $688/pair in 2006 dollars. I'm guessing more like $750 today, which translates to rather high-end on the scale of affordability. Considering the acquisition cost, there is considerable margin for update/upgrade, even at the original early 1970's price point.

Well yes and no....You're also limited to driver technolgies that were avaialble then. If you're gonna beat Mr. Kloss at his own game, you have to play the same game with the same means....

I'm a stinker ain't I?

 

[Zilch]

If you're gonna beat Mr. Kloss at his own game, you have to play the same game with the same means....

It's a bit early to tell, but Mr. Kloss himself would appear to have done somewhat better for 1/5 the cost using modern knowledge, materials, and design techniques.... :yes:

 

[marantzfan]

It's a bit early to tell, but Mr. Kloss himself would appear to have done somewhat better for 1/5 the cost using modern knowledge, materials, and design techniques.... :yes:

Yes, but then he has to sell them for a profit.......................

 

[Brian]

Refoan them and recap and give them a try. I like them better than the original Advent Loudspeaker as the drivers are closer and there is less dip in the crossover region.

I not interested in bringing them back it would be better to resell them as there are many who would appreciate them.

 

[dc270]

This is one of my favotite speakers in its size- looking forward to the Zilch version deuce!
DC

 

[BmWr75]

Zilch, looks like a couple of meteorites got stuck in the voice coils.

 

[BmWr75]

Refoan them and recap and give them a try. I like them better than the original Advent Loudspeaker as the drivers are closer and there is less dip in the crossover region.

I not interested in bringing them back it would be better to resell them as there are many who would appreciate them.

You don't know Zilch like I know Zilch.......that request just fell on selectively deaf ears. :thmbsp:

 

[Tiver]

Anyone who can suggest the right surrounds for the best price will get things off to a good start. I have two pairs that look just like that (as in rotten surrounds). I have foam for one pair, but would like foam for the other. I can get it locally for a li'l over $20, but I am sure someone reading this thread could cut that cost in half?

I also have a pair that has been refoamed, so I will be able to, with complete subjectivity, compare your creation to the original.

Lead on Zilch

 

[Zilch]

You don't know Zilch like I know Zilch.......that request just fell on selectively deaf ears. :thmbsp:

I DO hear it, of course, but I also hear this:

Some aspects of the Smaller Advent's measured performance were positive. For example, it reminded me of the benefits for bass performance of a well-tuned sealed box, compared with the reflex designs that are now ubiquitous. But despite its relatively even balance through the midrange and low treble, the Advent's tweeter is a total underperformer compared with modern designs, and its cabinet is way too resonant.

http://www.stereophile.com/historical/506advent/index4.html

We'll see what the ZilchLab measurements say, once they are refoamed. There's plenty more to investigate before deciding anything.... :yes:

 

[BmWr75]

Zilch, you are like E.F. Hutton to me.......

 

[Saint Johnny]

Zilch, you are like E.F. Hutton to me.......

More like, and I say this with all due respect, and admiration, Columbo!:thmbsp:

 

[nerdorama]

I've used my ewaves with the OLA (took them to the NW AK meet this spring) and some EV SP12's, but I also have a pair of smaller Advents which need repair.

Any advice on a good surround for these?

Thanks,
John

 

[Zilch]

More like, and I say this with all due respect, and admiration, Columbo! :thmbsp:

You've seen the ZilchMobile, apparently....