mrt2
Super Member
Wow, you guys sure are on the same page! I will offer a dissenting opinion.
Don't get me wrong, I grew up with vinyl records and they were my primary source until the early 90s, then again in the late 90s when I bought a new turntable and bought or re-bought piles of used records.
I have now moved away from vinyl records and more towards cds the last couple of years for a few reasons.
1. Vinyl has only a very limited future as a niche market. The fact is that the record companies will never press vinyl records in the numbers that they did 30 years ago. The vinyl fad among young people is actually likely to hasten the demise of vinyl as the increasing demand for a finite resource, vinyl records, bumps up the price of them. The owner of one of my favorite used record stores tells me how he keeps increasing the prices of mediocre rock records because college kids keep buying them. Records are delicate and a lot of newbies are, no doubt wearing them out playing them on worn out carts or poorly set up tables. I have no intention of paying $20, $30 or $50 for audiophile vinyl reissues, when the same titles are available for $5 on cd.
Being analog, it is time consuming to transfer records to digital files, though many people do it. If you have thousands of titles, the task of transfering to files is daunting. Cds are easy to transfer to digital files, when the time comes to switch to a server based system.
2. Vinyl does not necessarily sound better than cds. Cds do not necessarily sound better than vinyl. I cringe when I read blanket statements from people that all vinyl sounds better than cds. The answer is that it depends on the hardware, the mastering of the recording, the source of the original recording, and in the case of vinyl, the quality and condition of the disc itself. When properly mastered, a good pressing of an lp, in clean condition, played on a really good turntable on a good stereo, vinyl usually beats cd. However, when played on an average TT, and a typical pressing that has some wear, not so much.
For all of you cd haters, go get a DCC reissue, or Chesky, or Mapleshade cd and listen to it on a quality cd player before making blanket statements about cds sounding bad.
3. Lots of the used vinyl available at affordable prices today is mediocre at best. I lived through this not once, but twice, first in the 70s and again in the late 90s when I bought the stuff again.
4. Most, if not all music is recorded digitally. Going forward, what exactly is the point to dealing with analog to play digitally recorded music?
5. Used cds are cheaper than ever with people dumping their collections in favor of ipods or music servers. I know I am swimming against the current here, but this is exactly what happened in the 80s with vinyl. In ten years, I predict that AudioKarma will have cd threads exactly like this one, once cds disappear as the dominant medium for music storage.
Don't get me wrong, I grew up with vinyl records and they were my primary source until the early 90s, then again in the late 90s when I bought a new turntable and bought or re-bought piles of used records.
I have now moved away from vinyl records and more towards cds the last couple of years for a few reasons.
1. Vinyl has only a very limited future as a niche market. The fact is that the record companies will never press vinyl records in the numbers that they did 30 years ago. The vinyl fad among young people is actually likely to hasten the demise of vinyl as the increasing demand for a finite resource, vinyl records, bumps up the price of them. The owner of one of my favorite used record stores tells me how he keeps increasing the prices of mediocre rock records because college kids keep buying them. Records are delicate and a lot of newbies are, no doubt wearing them out playing them on worn out carts or poorly set up tables. I have no intention of paying $20, $30 or $50 for audiophile vinyl reissues, when the same titles are available for $5 on cd.
Being analog, it is time consuming to transfer records to digital files, though many people do it. If you have thousands of titles, the task of transfering to files is daunting. Cds are easy to transfer to digital files, when the time comes to switch to a server based system.
2. Vinyl does not necessarily sound better than cds. Cds do not necessarily sound better than vinyl. I cringe when I read blanket statements from people that all vinyl sounds better than cds. The answer is that it depends on the hardware, the mastering of the recording, the source of the original recording, and in the case of vinyl, the quality and condition of the disc itself. When properly mastered, a good pressing of an lp, in clean condition, played on a really good turntable on a good stereo, vinyl usually beats cd. However, when played on an average TT, and a typical pressing that has some wear, not so much.
For all of you cd haters, go get a DCC reissue, or Chesky, or Mapleshade cd and listen to it on a quality cd player before making blanket statements about cds sounding bad.
3. Lots of the used vinyl available at affordable prices today is mediocre at best. I lived through this not once, but twice, first in the 70s and again in the late 90s when I bought the stuff again.
4. Most, if not all music is recorded digitally. Going forward, what exactly is the point to dealing with analog to play digitally recorded music?
5. Used cds are cheaper than ever with people dumping their collections in favor of ipods or music servers. I know I am swimming against the current here, but this is exactly what happened in the 80s with vinyl. In ten years, I predict that AudioKarma will have cd threads exactly like this one, once cds disappear as the dominant medium for music storage.

