Vinyls
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zenith2134
Lunatic Member
... just to clarify , you'll never hear me calling records vinyls. Kind of funny now that I think about it!
boreas
"If it sounds good, it IS good." E.K.E.
zenith2134
Lunatic Member
same..as in "where's the LP spinner?" 
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G'day all, John: Harsh it might be but nevertheless it's increasingly true. I personally know of good folk in their 70's who now speak like kids in their teens or twenties.
Seeing this with my own eyes fills me with the worst kind of sadness. They have given away all that was precious to them in order to be 'modern and contemporary'!
I have actually asked some of these people why they have succumbed to this kind of language, and they tell me, 'because everybody else does it and even the government tells us to!'
They feel that they have no choice. That's very sad in my opinion! Regardless, I'll stick with 'records'. :yes: Regards, Felix aka catman.
Seeing this with my own eyes fills me with the worst kind of sadness. They have given away all that was precious to them in order to be 'modern and contemporary'!
I have actually asked some of these people why they have succumbed to this kind of language, and they tell me, 'because everybody else does it and even the government tells us to!'
They feel that they have no choice. That's very sad in my opinion! Regardless, I'll stick with 'records'. :yes:
Regards, Felix aka catman.
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specialidiot
Break Glass, Smoke Lucky
there's a lot more important things to worry about, I'm not gonna fuss over it.
boreas
"If it sounds good, it IS good." E.K.E.
Sorry, Felix! I forgot the "smiley". I agree with you as to the silliness of older people trying to emulate the speech of the young. My post was really just an example of what you're referring to: an older guy (me) speaking in the way that "twenty-somethings" now speak.
John
Wigwam Jones
Caesar non supra grammati
I don't care for the term 'vinyls'. And just as it is OK for people to use it with or without my permission, it's OK for me to complain about it. I don't stay up late nights worrying about it. I'll generally indulge in conversation with a person who uses the term, even though it bugs me to hear it.
I also suspect that some use the term because they know it bothers some of us wrinklies.
I also suspect that some use the term because they know it bothers some of us wrinklies.
PickyEars81
Super Member
Kind of splitting hairs there. To be completely correct, it is used as an adjective, describing the type of record, or records. However, given it's context "vinyl" is the plural for "vinyl record." (e.g., vinyl = vinyl records.) So effectively vinyl is still the plural of vinyl, not vinyls, with regards to vinyl records. But technically, there is no case where "vinyl" is a noun, so there is no singular of "vinyl" just its adjective form.
There is really no such sentence: "I have a vinyl," because it has no noun. But "I have a vinyl record" is legitimate. Notice the slang reference:
n.phonograph records. : I got some new vinyl. Come over and listen.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/vinyl
I agree about your reference to deer, which is both the singular and plural of deer.
deer
noun, plural deer, (occasionally) deers.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/deer
In the deer example, both "I shot a deer" and "I shot several deer" is valid. This is different from the vinyl example, in which "I have a vinyl" is incorrect, since it is, in that context simply an adjective. I have a vinyl WHAT?
I am no engrish scholar, but goddammit, I know vinyls is wrong:yes:
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Bob_in_OKC
Addicted Member
Kind of splitting hairs there. To be completely correct, it is used as an adjective, describing the type of record, or records. However, given it's context "vinyl" is the plural for "vinyl record." (e.g., vinyl = vinyl records.) So effectively vinyl is still the plural of vinyl, not vinyls, with regards to vinyl records. But technically, there is no case where "vinyl" is a noun, so there is no singular of "vinyl" just its adjective form.
Notice the slang reference:
n.phonograph records. : I got some new vinyl. Come over and listen.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/vinyl
I agree about your reference to deer, which is both the singular and plural of deer.
deer
noun, plural deer, (occasionally) deers.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/deer
In the deer example, both "I shot a deer" and "I shot several deer" is valid. This is different from the vinyl example, in which "I have a vinyl" is incorrect, since it is, in that context simply an adjective. I have a vinyl WHAT?
I am no engrish scholar, but goddammit, I know vinyls is wrong:yes:
I do still disagree. Vinyl is the material from which the records are made. It's not plural. It's also not singular. And it's not necessarily an adjective. It's just stuff. Like I said...like water, air, sand, wood, etc. It is not like deer, which is a countable noun.
To say that "vinyl" is the plural of the singular "vinyl" acknowledges that a record is a vinyl. The whole point here is that unless you accept the new slang usage it isn't.
I won't continue to debate this point beyond this reply, because in truth it's pointless, but I do disagree that vinyl is plural.
PickyEars81
Super Member
I was a bit off when I said there is no case where "vinyl" is a noun. One could say "I made this out of vinyl." But if one says, "I got some new vinyl, " then what is the quantity implied? Single? A single what? Molecule? Much like the sand you mention, if someone says "I got sand," is it not plural? Is "I got a sand" correct?
Much like the sand you mention, if someone says "I got sand," is it not plural? Is "I got a sand" correct?
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DougMac
Super Member
Yep
BTW, the term I used most often, "albums" is incorrect and a holdover from the 78 days. I just bought an "album" by Fats Waller. It's a folder with sleeves that hold five 78 records, a true album. When LP's came out, they contained roughly the same amount of music as the older 78 album so the term was applied.
"It's not what they call you, it's what you answer to." - W.C. Fields.
I grew up calling them records, albums and LP's, the terms I continue to use. If you say "vinyl", I understand what you mean. I'm more interested in our common love for music than your use of certain terms.
BTW, the term I used most often, "albums" is incorrect and a holdover from the 78 days. I just bought an "album" by Fats Waller. It's a folder with sleeves that hold five 78 records, a true album. When LP's came out, they contained roughly the same amount of music as the older 78 album so the term was applied.
"It's not what they call you, it's what you answer to." - W.C. Fields.
Zodia
Super Member
I guess I'll translate this
"Why not accept it and no it is not new, just kids growing up with the internet."
Hey now, I am 42 and I deal with lots of young people, so you do tend to 'pick' up some of the slang, do I use it? No not really, because most people would not know what i'm talking about.
(but I do cuss a lot)The use of the word "vinyl" to describe a record, doesn't really bother me, and in all fairness I picked up that term right here on AK...
Now what bothers me is when teens use words like "their" instead of "there", or "there" instead of "they're" that drives me nuts :gigglemad, or "your" instead of "you're" :twak:
John
goldwax
dozy ming-mong
It's the same thing when 78s were being phased out - the 33 1/3 crowd called them shellacs.
