We are doomed
- Thread starter barkerd
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That's the first time I've seen you end two sentences in a row with periods.
This is the 181st post in a thread that is essentially "the next time you kids throw your basketball over my fence I'm keeping it because in my day we played baseball".
Is every single person here like that? No, of course not. But many are. And its fine until you start expecting somebody of a different time and age to be just like you, and pass self righteous judgment on who they must be if they're not.
Audio quality aside, have noticed that the kids don't have the kind of quality entertainers they once did?
The degression as opposed to progression, or the degradation process of everything began after WWII.
Got a lonnnnnnng high mountain to climb to bring those days anywhere near familiarity.
In the meantime, the kids will enjoy wasting their money on the trash offered to them. And with it, their lack of knowledge of the way it should be will likely to continue.
IMHO, what your describing is a techy type of comparison. The kids are not taught the art of technical thought, I'm afraid.
They could probably tell you what their favorite tattoo or body piercing is, though. :thumbsdn:
No, I've noticed the opposite. Its out their, they're just not finding it the way you want to find it. You're digging a hole looking for something that they're watching fly through the sky.
barkerd
Super Member
In this thread : I have said that part of it was "tongue in cheek" . I have also equated bashing those who bash as no better than bashing, in the first place. Personally : my 9 and 12 year old enjoy their Ipods : they also enjoy listening to some of "Dad's" music too. What I see as a difference (that has already been pointed out) in today vs yesterday is that ear buds and playlists (ie the technology itself) has made music a more solitary and private pursuit : and I DO think that is a bad thing. In my experience it is when music is shared that one's eyes are opened to much more of what the world has to offer.
Closed mindedness on either side of a fence is still close mindedness.
capt.chaos
Super Member
I believe my post have been misunderstood. I was simply saying the future of music is not doomed. Generations have been saying this since the beginning of music reproduction. My example was to show that this doomed belief is older than the analog, digital debate. I was not saying that there was no good new music or young people should have the same music music taste as older people. I am not debating genres or new vs old. I was not disagreeing with digital being the future of music. Or that there are not some good digital formats. For now in most cases not all, I prefer the analog version. Now back to the point I was trying to make. In response to we are doomed, I think no we are not. I believe that both young people and digital music will evolve and mature over time and it will be ok. Don't give up hope for the future.
For two weeks I have been exchanging youtube clips of songs with somebody I recently met. I've discovered more new bands in two weeks than I probably discovered in all of, say, 1995. Bands that nobody here has probably heard of, in a genre that few are probably into. It ain't going to be on the radio, but its what I like, and I have access to it now instead of being force fed schlock on the FM dial.
What you view as solitary isn't. Its just shared in a way that is foreign to you.
KrisM
Lunatic Member
I'm finding it quite funny, to be honest. Sort of like when you walk into a theater to see a drama, but it is so bad, and you laugh so much, that you leave thinking it was a comedy.
Echoes Myron
Active Member
You're right, that argument is as old as the hills. People in the Delta said that, some would argue with good reason, about Led Zeppelin and every other band of that era that adopted that guitar sound. All of this is culturally-relative. An argument of absolutes misses the point.
What JohnVF says here has some truth. I really value AK, and I've met some great folks here, but this atmosphere exists - and I (and other younger members) are aware of it because we're outside of it. Granted, we all have our own nostalgias...
This lack of inquisitiveness is pretty obvious (it's on display in the cable discussion here as well). I think the best thing about music and audio is that it suggests a wide field of possibilities, a wide range of ways that it can have a personal, philosophical, and aesthetic effect on your life.
There just doesn't seem to be a point to listening, or experiencing music, just to have your ideas confirmed - over and over again.
If it wasn't for YouTube, I never would have discovered Zainichi Funk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H14XFS1zVo&feature=player_embedded
-D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H14XFS1zVo&feature=player_embedded
-D
Are you as unsure about the point of having the same old orgasms over and over again?
Faulkren
Fan of Breakfast Food
I'm 17 and I listen through a fairly decent system. I do agree that my peers listening to youtube through skullcandy headphones and Beats are missing something. But I don't get all worked up about it.
I pity them, sure. But I don't get worked up about it.
Very broad generalization, though.
I pity them, sure. But I don't get worked up about it.
Very broad generalization, though.
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dodog
Addicted Member
What if he has the same old orgasms over and over again while only listening to Supertramp, Steely Dan and Julie London?:scratch2:
barkerd
Super Member
how about listening to Julie London using Steely Dan ? 
It has been hinted at / and I guess part of the purpose of this thread :
If we don't want the love of music played and enjoyed on decent equipment to be lost : it simply isn't up to the younger generation to follow our footsteps ...... it's up to us to actively teach it .... pass the torch ..... bitchin and moanin won't do it.
The difference I see between "us" (old AK farts) and "them" (those youngens) is 'back in the day it was easier to fall into the music listening habits we share here ...... its not so easy for the new generation ..... so once again : it is up to us
It has been hinted at / and I guess part of the purpose of this thread :
If we don't want the love of music played and enjoyed on decent equipment to be lost : it simply isn't up to the younger generation to follow our footsteps ...... it's up to us to actively teach it .... pass the torch ..... bitchin and moanin won't do it.
The difference I see between "us" (old AK farts) and "them" (those youngens) is 'back in the day it was easier to fall into the music listening habits we share here ...... its not so easy for the new generation ..... so once again : it is up to us