Who all is tired of the Tiger Woods crash thing?
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Art K.
The Voodoo You Do!
Jason Whitlock sums up most of how I feel. I have slight disagreements with a couple of points but not enough to protest.
http://msn.foxsports.com/golf/story/10464562/Tiger's-real-crime?-Not-playing-the-media's-game
http://msn.foxsports.com/golf/story/10464562/Tiger's-real-crime?-Not-playing-the-media's-game
fotno
Lunatic Member
You forgot to add: Not having any portion of your life to yourself, photographers and reporters following you everywhere you go (including the bathroom), and losing all right to anything resembling a "normal" life. Not to mention legions of people who would enjoy nothing more than seeing you fall. No one's life could take the kind of scrutiny these people endure; and personally I don't think that's fair.
Just to be clear I hate professional sports. I'm not making a stand for Tiger Woods, but for a fellow human being who may be guilty of infidelity but little else, and that infidelity should be between him and his wife. As I mentioned earlier I'd make the same stand for anyone. God forbid that any of you ever become the focus of such public scrutiny.
BULLWINKLE
Super Member
I pretty much agree with this. Well said Fotno.
usedto
Lunatic Member
Well I don't agree. Some of the best musicians that were ever born are satisfied to play in their own living room. Some of the best singers choose the shower instead of the stage or recording studio.
If he did it for the money, then he could have taken his first bazillion dollars and faded off into the sunset and lived happily ever after. If he did it for the notoriety, he got that in just a few years. If he did it for the love of the sport, then you and I would probably never heard his name. But he didn't. All of his endorsements prove that.
He KNEW that once he moved into the limelight, he would be under the microscope. Dale Earnhardt knew that every time he got behind the wheel of the race car, he might die. He was right.
Quit feeling sorry for the fact that he cheated on his wife and got caught. And those of you who keep saying "he's only human" - if being human means it's OK to boink some other broad the day before your wife gives birth to your child, you are a sad lot. Of course, that's just my opinion.
If he did it for the money, then he could have taken his first bazillion dollars and faded off into the sunset and lived happily ever after. If he did it for the notoriety, he got that in just a few years. If he did it for the love of the sport, then you and I would probably never heard his name. But he didn't. All of his endorsements prove that.
He KNEW that once he moved into the limelight, he would be under the microscope. Dale Earnhardt knew that every time he got behind the wheel of the race car, he might die. He was right.
Quit feeling sorry for the fact that he cheated on his wife and got caught. And those of you who keep saying "he's only human" - if being human means it's OK to boink some other broad the day before your wife gives birth to your child, you are a sad lot. Of course, that's just my opinion.
fotno
Lunatic Member
You'll never hear me argue that cheating on your spouse is right or excusable. The only argument I am making is that it should have always been a private matter, unless it infringed on the rights or well-being of people outside his family.
In my opinion, the entire incident should have been reported by the police as an auto accident, with no more details given other than the name of the driver and the extent of damage and/or injury. This would be in line with the same thing happening to any other person, no more no less. I believe that the authorities overstepped their bounds in this case, by approaching the media in the first place. But hey, turns out everybody wants to be on TV.
As I have said repeatedly, no one could endure the scrutiny these people are living under. No life is perfect, and with some of the News agencies nowadays, even if they can't dig it up, they'll invent it.
In my opinion, the entire incident should have been reported by the police as an auto accident, with no more details given other than the name of the driver and the extent of damage and/or injury. This would be in line with the same thing happening to any other person, no more no less. I believe that the authorities overstepped their bounds in this case, by approaching the media in the first place. But hey, turns out everybody wants to be on TV.
As I have said repeatedly, no one could endure the scrutiny these people are living under. No life is perfect, and with some of the News agencies nowadays, even if they can't dig it up, they'll invent it.
No.... didn't forget that at all... see above.
These people make choices like everyone else has to make choices. Most of these folks are fairly intelligent and don't live in a vacuum. In their case I believe it's a conscious choice knowing they have to give up privacy for the big bucks, fame, etc. If I think anything is unfair, it's that they want the press around when everything is roses, then want them to disappear when it's not.
I do think your notion is admirable. And I would certainly say that I personally wouldn't want to be in the spotlight. (not that there's any danger of that happening) I once joked with my wife that "I don't ever want my name in the newspaper"..... well..... actually it wasn't a joke.
usedto
Lunatic Member
The police obviously thought there was something more going on than what Tiger said (and they were right). If his "accident" was so minor the air bags didn't go off, then how did he get beat up so bad?
My speculation is that she teed off on him, he hopped in the car and hit a hydrant to feign a wreck and it didn't do enough damage, so he picked on a tree.
He has enough money and notoriety to have bowed out years ago, and didn't.
What would you say his motivation is, knowing the possible consequences?
Is his fame worth more than a wife and two kids? If he had quit golf, no one would give a damn what he does. He chose the situation.
tboat4
Super Member
IMO, most of these people understand that the media will be around when they (celebrity or athlete) are working in a professional manner and accept that as part of the professional working environment. They should also be allowed privacy when it comes to their private lives, just like you or I. No one has the right to expect anyone to give up all privacy simply because they earn their living in a public manner, and $ shouldn't even come into the discussion. Buying a Tiger Woods hat or shirt, or even a Buick does not give someone the right to know what goes on in his private life. It is not an entitlement.
fotno
Lunatic Member
What the police might or might not have thought, is a matter for police investigation, not a news conference or a press interview. Can you imagine being in an perfectly innocent accident that an investigating officer made some incorrect assumptions about; and instead of doing the leg work and finding out what really happened, decided to give an interview to your local TV station making subtle hints about what he thought was going on? If his incorrect assumptions ruined your life, how would you feel about it? The name Richard Jewel mean anything to you?
Again I'm not arguing that Tiger Woods be given special treatment, just the same that anyone else is entitled to. The expectation of having the investigation be done, before details of the inquiry were released to the media should be the right of all people. I happen to believe that more important questions than the peccadilloes of a professional athlete, should be asked here.
I've heard people suggesting that he should lose his endorsements, or even be penalized by his sport... If everyone who fooled around on their spouses lost their jobs because of it, half the damn country would be on the unemployment line. I'm pretty sure that nowhere in the "Being a Damn Good Golfer" brochure, did he read the lines: Once you're rich and famous, you must forfeit all other rights. Who knows, maybe if he had, he'd have taken up Parcheesi instead...
merrylander
AK Member
I see the ad for Entertainment Tonight (TVs National Enquirer) got one thing right when the said"Now more women are coming out of the woodwork." I guess getting one's 15 minutes of fame is worth declaring in public that you are a slut. Reminds me of the old joke about 'will you sleep with me for one million dollars'.
finnbow
The Dude Abides
To a certain degreee, I believe the whole sordid mess is a result of the dumbing down of news into "Infotainment." This whole episode has high Infotainment value even though it isn't newsworthy. The average John or Jane on the street understands and is titillated by this stuff and finds it easier to grasp than Bernancke's handling of the Fed.
I find it mildly amusing, but have not made an effort to get all the details.
From what I have heard, it strikes me as further evidence, as if anymore was needed, that celebrity/wealth is simply not compatible with a monogamous concept like marriage.
Memo to Tiger and Kobe: You are young, wealthy, glamerous men. Sow the wild oats at least until your mid 40s and then consider marriage as a viable option. George Clooney has it right.
From what I have heard, it strikes me as further evidence, as if anymore was needed, that celebrity/wealth is simply not compatible with a monogamous concept like marriage.
Memo to Tiger and Kobe: You are young, wealthy, glamerous men. Sow the wild oats at least until your mid 40s and then consider marriage as a viable option. George Clooney has it right.
Bstable
Super Member
Took the words right out of my mouth. Many people couldn't point to a map of the U.S. ... but ask them what Brad Pitt did last week and...
tboat4
Super Member
Ain't that the truth!!!