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Why do you hate LCD/Plasma

I have a year-old Sony LCD (S series, no XBR here :no:), and I love it. My only gripe is non-black blacks when the room is dark. Amazing picture quality in the light, though. I would have gone with plasma except that it isn't going in a pitch-black theater room, so glare would have been a big issue. I'm really waiting for this to come out, though, if it ever does.
 
whoaru99 said:
I don't hate either.

I own a plasma because I think it had the better picture.
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same here.
I love my Panasonic 42" 60u plasma.
I bought it for $1k
If I had the money I would buy a Pioneer Kuro 50"
Those tvs produce the most gorgeous and detailed picture I have ever seen.
The whole 1080p hype is over-rated. I would rather have a 720p plasma that has great picture quality.
 
LCD has it's place in the market, monitors for Gamers and Websurfing , LCOS is forgiving in nature in regards to screen burn but current PDP displays have safegards in place now for protection . LCD key features however are a sacrifice for vivid color , LCD does not handle blacks very well , but does have "antiglare" and as a result of the antiglare the display then has a milky glaze that I see , most do not , but I sell TVs for a living and I'm a tweak, if you do an LCD do the new 08 Sharp line, if you do a PDP ..... Fujitsu by far.
 
Sony is now getting out of the rear projection biz, so no more LCOS SXRD TVs. pity. That leaves just DLP, LCD and Plasma.
SED is dead, and CRT is too small. Less choices now.
Jack
 
I have a 57 Inch Hitachi CRT that is around two years old. I had a 25 inch RCA tv for years and researched tvs for a year and a half before I bought it. I paid around 1600 dollars for it and in all my looking I did not see an LCD or DLP that had as good a picture. The plasmas had a comparable picture in some ways but were double or more the price. I am lucky in that space is not an issue for me and what the tv weighs makes no difference to me either. I don't want to hang it on a wall. On pure picture quality I thought crt was the best. It just so happened that the price was less than all the others as well. If the picture of the others had been dramatically better I might have justified the much higher prices, but that was just not the case. I have no problem adopting a new technology if it offers substantial benefits to go with its substantially greater cost but I did not see that in this case. The other good thing was I did not have to buy a separate stand either, saving more money still.
 
I think most times when referring to a CRT television in regards to this thread it is assumed to mean a CRT tube television not a rear projector. Rear projectors aren't all that substantial. I could just imagine what a 57" tube would weigh if they ever got around to building one. IIRC the largest CRT tube you could buy was 37".

Mike
 
Zeromancer said:
The whole 1080p hype is over-rated. I would rather have a 720p plasma that has great picture quality.
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:no:

1080p hype?

1080p > 720p

NO if and or butts(done on purpose two Ts).

1080p will be old news in a couple/few years.

To buy something that is not 1080p now is silly. What a waste of $$$ that would be(especially since I just saw a quality westinghouse 37" LCD 1080p for $699 at newegg.com). 1080p is not future proof, more so than 720p for sure, but not future proof. Eventually higher res screens will be available as will higher res sources. I've had 1080p on my puter for sometime. Viewing HD apple trailers in 720p and 1080p and I can easily vouch that 1080p is so much nicer to look at. A year ago 1080p was pricey compared to 720p, now it's such a small difference I can find higher quality 1080p displays for less than 720p displays, high quality or not.

1080p hype? When you talk 720p and 1080p on a 32" or 42" or 47" etc you can EASILY see 1080p is better on a display that size.

So saying 1080p is hype...is what is over rated!

:no:
 
Teron said:
:no:

So saying 1080p is hype...is what is over rated!

:no:
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Yeah, for most 1080p IS hype because they don't sit close enough to the TV to get the benefit of the higher resolution - that is FACT.

When you're sitting two feet away from your computer monitor that's a different story...
 
I second that!

Snade said:
I like big speakers and small TVs.

Cheers, Snade
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Until this past summer I had a 13" CRT with rabbit ears. I did that for 10 years, and it wasn't pretty!:nono: But it was 'good enough'.

Now I have real cable in my 'ManShun'! But I still have the 13" TeeVee. I wouldn't have complained if Santa brought me 26" LCD for Christmas, but it didn't happen. I need to use my reading glasses to see the scores!

I'd like a larger flat panel LCD because I could hang it on the wall and use the shelf space for more audio gear. But HD means little to me. Nor does surround sound.

I have a VHS and a DVD playing thru my 2 channel stereo. Sounds better than it looks!
 
I just purchased my first LCD and hooked it up yesterday. 46" 1080p and love it so far. Dish Network is coming to install a HD DVR receiver next Tuesday for free and is also giving me 6 months of free HD programming. I find myself more drawn into the program than with my old 32" regular set. I do see a little blurring on some broadcasts, but hope HD programming will fix that. Time will tell, but so far I am happy.
 
Tapehead: this is just me but you really ought to upgrade - such a small image (if you're not seated close enough) can easily cause eyestrain in a short time. Most computer monitors are larger than that! And if you're a sports fan that little 13" tube can't be fun to watch.

CRT tube TVs are really cheap now & a 27" flatscreen tube set made by a decent basic brand like this Sanyo is only around $250.*

I kind of know what your'e going through because during one semester back in college, I had to use an old 13" Dumont color TV (a blast from the past! a 1978 model I think) and when I finally brought up a 20" Zenith, that extra seven inches made a HUGE difference.

Other brands like Philips and Toshiba also still sell a few CRTs. But like VCRs, even these entry-level sets are disappearing pretty quick now, replaced by cheapo flatscreen LCD sets that have much worse picture quality but cost twice as much. :( <--- I'm not dissing LCD technology by saying that: in addition to the LCDs made by Sony, Panasonic, etc with excellent image quality are the crappy brands with blurry pictures and weird color shades.

* they also make a widescreen CRT tube monitor
 
I have plasma, LCD, CRT and LCD rear projection HDTVs as well as a front projector that is a quasi EDTV resolution (800x600). Each technology looks good if done right, and can look poorly if done bad. I've seen 720p sets that look better than a 1080p set, mainly because the panel response time and/or contrast ratios of the 1080p panel are so poor that they look bad.

Plasma looks closest to CRT if you prefer that, generally it looks better as it has better geometry. Plasma is heavier than LCD of a comparable size. I've found the plasma generally has better black levels.

Other than that not a whole lot to it. I've had my HD CRT sets for as much as 4 years, they still look fine. My LCDs are actually old by today's standards (the one I'm watching now is over 2 years) and still look fine.

My advice is don't worry about it too much, if you are worried about the technology in terms of reliability buy an extended warranty (I got 4 years total coverage on my 50 inch plasma, they tend to run fairly warm so its a good bet IMHO seeing as that heat isn't always good for electronics), and its something I'd probably recommend on rear projection if it covers the bulb and light engine. LCDs have been around long enough for the most part (look at computer monitors), that any name brand is probably a fairly safe bet.

As far as picture quality, just examine what you are buying and remember it is only going to look as good as the source. ATSC is going to be 1080i or 720p, so the only real benefit of the 1080p will be noticed on HD DVD or Blu Ray, if it is something you're not investing in I wouldn't worry about a 1080i or 720p set.
 
Teron said:
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1080p hype?

1080p > 720p

NO if and or butts(done on purpose two Ts).

1080p will be old news in a couple/few years.

To buy something that is not 1080p now is silly. What a waste of $$$ that would be(especially since I just saw a quality westinghouse 37" LCD 1080p for $699 at newegg.com). 1080p is not future proof, more so than 720p for sure, but not future proof. Eventually higher res screens will be available as will higher res sources. I've had 1080p on my puter for sometime. Viewing HD apple trailers in 720p and 1080p and I can easily vouch that 1080p is so much nicer to look at. A year ago 1080p was pricey compared to 720p, now it's such a small difference I can find higher quality 1080p displays for less than 720p displays, high quality or not.

1080p hype? When you talk 720p and 1080p on a 32" or 42" or 47" etc you can EASILY see 1080p is better on a display that size.

So saying 1080p is hype...is what is over rated!

:no:
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1080p is great on tvs 50" or bigger.
I do agree on that but for 50" and below I can hardly tell the difference.
The only 1080p tv I would buy would be the Pioneer Kuro plasma tv; it looks better than any of the current 1080p tvs I have viewed.
Too bad they cost an arm and a leg.
Pioneer KURO PDP-5010FD
 
Lets agree to put up with TV's that are just "ok" and get out in the real world more.
Roll in the grass with your shirt off and get itchy.
Get sunburned.
Step in dog **** barefooted.
Do a forward roll.
Sleep in a tent.
 
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