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Why do you hate LCD/Plasma

...but I'm not convinced that even those models will render SD video from older sources properly...

If this is your ultimate reason, then you'll probably never justify one. IMO, it's not the priority of companies to optimize big screen HDTVs for SD video.
 
The only reason i still perfer a crt is i still play 8-bit nintendo and it just doesn't work with the newer tvs like a crt.
 
Just got a Sony bravia 40 inch and I am pleased with the pic in hd, but in hd they all seem very close. The thing that I really enjoy with the sony is the ability to smooth sd pics and not become offensive, bleeding, blobs. It might just be me, but I compared a sony from a year ago, and the new one is far superior in sd. Kinda strange that I went out to spend an extra 1,000 bucks so I could enjoy the whole 12 HD channels we get, and make sure the other 300 look just like they did on my old set. I really only wanted the HD for the full 5.1 digital mix anyway.
 
"digital Worms" can you expand and explain.


Early digital TVs were prone to video noise that manifested itself as looking as though tiny worms were crawling all over the screen. Other digital artifacts are blocking and digital haze.

In modern sets one sees far less of these problems.
 
No hate for LCD or Plasma but...

When I was in the market for a new set last 2 years ago, I looked at 3 major technologies... Plasma, LCD, and DLP.

My comparisons were narrowed down to:

Plasma: Panasonic, Pioneer
LCD: Sony Bravia, Sharp Aquos
DLP: Sony SXRD

After countless hours of auditioning, I ended up with a Sony KDS-60A2000 (DLP/SXRD). I felt it had the most "film-like" picture and also the best black levels. The price to size ratio was the best and the bulb is user replaceable.
 
I could argue that I like the picture on a CRT better, but for me that's not really the point. No matter how good they make them, I'd rather watch an older set. The main reason is that I more-or-less understand how they work and can repair them myself. The thought of owning and using technology that I don't understand and can't repair myself is disconcerting to me, I keep computers and DVD players because I've found the benifits outweigh the negatives, but that's about it. Otherwise I pretty much technologically stay in between the early-1930s and the early-1970s. That and I prefer the nice old console cabinets they used to put televisions in.

My classiest set is a 1960 RCA CTC-10 console "The Wynnewood" (21" round CRT color television) with an (electronic) ultrasonic remote, I haven't got around to restoring it yet, but once I do it will probably always remain my main watching set. The only model I like better is the remote controlled 1957 RCA CTC-7 "Worthington", and those are exceedingly rare.

I feel the same way about the newer cars, no matter how fast they make them, they just don't "feel" right to me. In the end it's not about straight up performance for me, whether it be a TV or a car, it's about the good looks and old fashioned solid quality of the older stuff and having something you fixed yourself and the way it makes you feel when it's working properly. I'd rather be cruising down the road in my 2+ ton '72 Buick Centurion with the top down and the 8-track cranked up (so I can hear it over the sweet sound of the 455 big block through dual glasspacks) than anything they're putting out today, and the same goes for my old RCA when I get that going too.
 
You are correct. It is LCoS. I believe it's Sony's "version" of DLP technology.

Not really. Its not a "version" of DLP, I believe they are different technologies. The only thing they have in common is being Rear Projection. BTW, Sony is going stop making RPTVs.
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Otherwise I pretty much technologically stay in between the early-1930s and the early-1970s. That and I prefer the nice old console cabinets they used to put televisions in.QUOTE]These aren't exactly cabinets, but Panasonic has a bunch of different frames to choose from to dress up their plasma sets: framed plasmas.

I can relate to the fix-it-yourself issue: while I am going to eventually buy a flatscreen HDTV, probably a Pioneer plasma, I get this vaguely uncomfortable feeling I am at the mercy of the company making these TVs and all the other modern ultra-sophisticated entertainment gear that no "shade tree" mechanic person can possibly fix himself.

But in the back of my mind (if you don't mind me getting philosophical for a moment) is the fact that this stuff isn't required to live a truly good life, so if it craps out, it is more of a nuisance issue rather than something fundamentally life-altering like a tornado knocking down my house, a car accident, etc. As long as I have some good books, a football to throw around but especially, my family & friends, I'm all set! :yes: [/end deep thinking section :)]
 
FWIW, I love my 42" Vizio plasma in HD.

While watching the NFL this year, I'm constantly amazed at what a great picture it has.
Stunning!!:thmbsp:
 
I was thinking of replacing my CRT with an LCD, so I went to a few department stores and The Sony Store. I couldn't believe what I saw. Sure, they where beautiful when people where sitting still, but everytime there was any movement, things appeared to go out of focus. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.

People are talking about the death of Hi-fi, what about the death of TV? I am incredulous that consumers are willing to accept this junk just to have a lighter, thinner TV.
 
I was thinking of replacing my CRT with an LCD, so I went to a few department stores and The Sony Store. I couldn't believe what I saw. Sure, they where beautiful when people where sitting still, but everytime there was any movement, things appeared to go out of focus. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.

People are talking about the death of Hi-fi, what about the death of TV? I am incredulous that consumers are willing to accept this junk just to have a lighter, thinner TV.
I don't like LCD tvs.
Go check out some Panasonic Plasmas
or if You have some $$$ ---- Pioneer Elite or Kuro plasma tvs.
 
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I can relate to the fix-it-yourself issue: while I am going to eventually buy a flatscreen HDTV, probably a Pioneer plasma, I get this vaguely uncomfortable feeling I am at the mercy of the company making these TVs and all the other modern ultra-sophisticated entertainment gear that no "shade tree" mechanic person can possibly fix himself.

I service Pioneer plasmas and you are correct, not everyone can repair all brands. I would never try a repair on a plasma that I did not have access to technical manuals and parts support (Vizio, HP,Dell, Daewoo,etc).
Pioneer has the best service support and the most reasonable parts pricing in the US.
 
For me it's the pixelation. My Sammy DLP has 100% fill and since calibrated looks as close to a movie screen as I've seen. 1.5 years now and it still blows away all the LCD's and 95% of the plasmas I've seen. Mine is strictly a DVD display. I don't watch programmed content, period.
All that said, LCD and Plasma displays are mechanically simpler and more reliable. I don't hate them, I understand why people like them, I just don't want one :)
 
I wouldn't say I hate either. I just bought my Sony XBR40 three years ago. It was the last year Sony made the big 320 pound monster and the dealers were pricing them to sell quickly because they were really pushing the flat screens. I will eventually move to a newer type but for now I'm still very much enjoying my old tech TV. :yes: It's HD ready when I decide to go that route too. Unless I'm doing a side by side comparison I won't see the difference. Ignorance is bliss. :D Besides I don't have to worry about somebody breaking in and stealing it. :smoke:

320 lbs:tears: I was looking at this TV until I saw the weight. That's when I purchased a Sony 50a10, RPLCD awesome picture 70 lbs.
 
I love the way LCDs and plasmas look, but one look at my local craigslist, always full of busted units too expensive to repair. I had that in mind today, and the salesman wouldn't deny it, but just said most people buy an extended warranty.

That's nice, I can also find all sorts of info on why extended warranties can BS as well.

I opted for a Samsung CRT HDTV, a 30", just got it home today. Looks a lot better than my old flat screen just feeding it with an S-Video (forgot the HDMI cable)
 
I love the way LCDs and plasmas look, but one look at my local craigslist, always full of busted units too expensive to repair. I had that in mind today, and the salesman wouldn't deny it, but just said most people buy an extended warranty.

That's nice, I can also find all sorts of info on why extended warranties can BS as well.

I opted for a Samsung CRT HDTV, a 30", just got it home today. Looks a lot better than my old flat screen just feeding it with an S-Video (forgot the HDMI cable)

monoprice.com for the hdmi cable
 
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